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Dec 14 2019 08:54am
Quote (Ghot @ Dec 13 2019 11:38pm)
Total psychobabble. Typical millennial projection. I feel sullied for even have read this.

tl;dr version... millennials find that boomers won't put up with their crap. Instead of calling it simple experience, they call it NPD.

Tip for millennials: Don't judge a man before you walk a mile in his shoes.


He says as he judges those whose shoes in which he's walked not an inch.
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Dec 14 2019 10:58am
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He says as he judges those whose shoes in which he's walked not an inch.



I mean in "years" bro. This is a topic about age groups.
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Dec 14 2019 11:00am
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I mean in "years" bro. This is a topic about age groups.


So if I'm 60 and still think the baby boomers are shit then my argument becomes correct?
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Dec 14 2019 11:06am
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I mean in "years" bro. This is a topic about age groups.


If that's the case, then your "walk a mile" comment doesn't follow the argument.
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Dec 14 2019 11:11am
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So if I'm 60 and still think the baby boomers are shit then my argument becomes correct?



When you're 60, you'll be a member of the new crop of baby boomers.

I can remember waiting in the long ass gas lines. I was talking to my parents afterward and was blaming "them" for "using up all the natural resources".



The term baby boomers, kind of has two meanings. One is an age group and another is a philosophy. The "philosophy" keeps recurring in every generation of folk aged 50-70-ish.
This is another thing we don't realize till we have "been there, done that".

No matter how much I thought I understood about things in my mid-late 20's, about the 50-70yo generation's philosophy... I found out I was wrong.
That is what I mean when I say that someone can't understand "till they walk a mile in someone's shoes".


But I can guarantee one thing... you WILL have a very different philosophy in your 60's than you do now.




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If that's the case, then your "walk a mile" comment doesn't follow the argument.



See this... post. :)

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When you're 60, you'll be a member of the new crop of baby boomers.

I can remember waiting in the long ass gas lines. I was talking to my parents afterward and was blaming "them" for "using up all the natural resources".

The term baby boomers, kind of has two meanings. One is an age group and another is a philosophy. The "philosophy" keeps recurring in every generation of folk aged 50-70-ish.
This is another thing we don't realize till we have "been there, done that".

No matter how much I thought I understood about things in my mid-late 20's, about the previous generation's philosophy... I found out I was wrong.
That is what I mean when I say that someone can't understand "till they walk a mile in someone's shoes".

But I can guarantee one thing... you WILL have a very different philosophy in your 60's than you do now.


I agree that "baby boomer" is both a generational identity and also a mindset. My mother has a super boomer mindset. Doesn't understand technology, is fairly reactionary, and talks about "the good old days", but my friends parents are super competent with technology and understand there are unique challenges faced by different generations. They're not very boomer. (my mom isn't a baby boomer and his parents are, had kids super old)

However, I also know you are boomer as fuck, have no sense of perspective, and don't even have basic knowledge of major historical events that you lived through, so I don't value your opinion. You have virtually zero self awareness and not everybody is that way.
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I agree that "baby boomer" is both a generational identity and also a mindset. My mother has a super boomer mindset. Doesn't understand technology, is fairly reactionary, and talks about "the good old days", but my friends parents are super competent with technology and understand there are unique challenges faced by different generations. They're not very boomer. (my mom isn't a baby boomer and his parents are, had kids super old)

However, I also know you are boomer as fuck, have no sense of perspective, and don't even have basic knowledge of major historical events that you lived through, so I don't value your opinion. You have virtually zero self awareness and not everybody is that way.





Which is pretty much what I thought about the older generation as well. Short of a Vulcan mind meld or telepathy, I don't KNOW how to explain it any better than I am now.

The more we "live" through life, the more we learn. Without doing that "living through life", the only way I can think to explain it would be something like telepathy.
Keep in mind that when you say things like: "don't even have basic knowledge of major historical events", it sounds kind of silly to me. YOU, who hasn't "Lived through them" are explaining to ME who has, how much I don't understand what was happening at the time.
It's almost like someone who has never had... carrots, trying to explain to me that I have no clue what they taste like.

For a tiny example... when I grew up, Pluto was a planet. Now it's not. You... assigning a right or wrongness to the knowledge of Pluto, is kind of silly. In another 30-40 years there maybe another definition of Pluto, that neither of us can foresee.

Or go backwards in time. In medieval times, the best thinkers there were, were convinced that a good layer of dirt was a way to stay healthy. We've since learned that cleanliness works a bit better. But 100 years from now, they may find out that our medieval friends, had it more right, than we do today.
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Which is pretty much what I thought about the older generation as well. Short of a Vulcan mind meld or telepathy, I don't KNOW how to explain it any better than I am now.

The more we "live" through life, the more we learn. Without doing that "living through life", the only way I can think to explain it would be something like telepathy.
Keep in mind that when you say things like: "don't even have basic knowledge of major historical events", it sounds kind of silly to me. YOU, who hasn't "Lived through them" are explaining to ME who has, how much I don't understand what was happening at the time.
It's almost like someone who has never had... carrots, trying to explain to me that I have no clue what they taste like.

For a tiny example... when I grew up, Pluto was a planet. Now it's not. You... assigning a right or wrongness to the knowledge of Pluto, is kind of silly. In another 30-40 years there maybe another definition of Pluto, that neither of us can foresee.
Or go backwards in time. In medieval times, the best thinkers there were, were convinced that a good layer of dirt was a way to stay healthy. We've since learned that cleanliness works a bit better. But 100 years from now, they may find out that our medieval friends, had it more right, than we do today.


The bold is the perfect example of your boomer mindset. What is a planet is just a matter of arbitrary classification, not a discovery of new knowledge, but you weren't willing to gain even a basic understanding of the subject before making confident declarations. I couldn't have asked for a better example.

My father isn't boomer at all. He constantly reads and asks me to explain the science that he's learning about, but my mother is super boomer and only asks me how to do basic things like send an email. It all has to do with retaining your willingness to learn and willingness to accept that you are wrong. My parents are pretty good examples of opposite sides of that spectrum. You are not willing to learn and so you slowly turned into those older people who stopped being willing to accept their mistakes. Not everybody is like that. I have no doubt that my philosophy will change as I get older, as it should with new information, but it isn't going to change the same way yours did, because as you got older you stopped being willing to learn and accept new information.

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The bold is the perfect example of your boomer mindset. What is a planet is just a matter of arbitrary classification, not a discovery of new knowledge, but you weren't willing to gain even a basic understanding of the subject before making confident declarations. I couldn't have asked for a better example.

My father isn't boomer at all. He constantly reads and asks me to explain the science that he's learning about, but my mother is super boomer and only asks me how to do basic things like send an email. It all has to do with retaining your willingness to learn and willingness to accept that you are wrong. My parents are pretty good examples of opposite sides of that spectrum. You are not willing to learn and so you slowly turned into those older people who stopped being willing to accept their mistakes. Not everybody is like that. I have no doubt that my philosophy will change as I get older, as it should with new information, but it isn't going to change the same way yours did, because as you got older you stopped being willing to learn and accept new information.




Well, bro I think you've made it obvious that when saying someone is not willing to learn... you are in fact describing yourself. And I can see that this convo is... useless.
Happy Holidays bro.
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Well, bro I think you've made it obvious that when saying someone is not willing to learn... you are in fact describing yourself. And I can see that this convo is... useless.
Happy Holidays bro.


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