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Nov 14 2019 06:14am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 14 2019 07:12am)
He posted a single link to a long piece published by a disgraced smear site.

It had everything from linking to infowars, to criticizing immigration, to award-winning book recommendations, to mentioning Calvin Coolidge (just like hitler!) as proof of racist white nationalism.
I was wondering if there were specific claims or portions of the article that he thought were actually damning and/or compelling.



Could be. I still want a coherent and honest argument against him or identifying him as such.


He worked for infowars and knowingly discredited the families who lost lives ones in the Sandyhook school shooting. Bonafide POS.
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Nov 14 2019 06:16am
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He worked for infowars and knowingly discredited the families who lost lives ones in the Sandyhook school shooting. Bonafide POS.


Thats Alex Jones
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Nov 14 2019 06:19am
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yeah right, instead of reading the article and checking if the information presented is credible to you, you jump straight to smearing the people reporting, quoting far right propaganda publications to do so.

but hey, you're totally not making excuses for white nationalists, you're just genuinely unaware of who stephen miller is, what he stands for, and why he is one of trump's senior policy advisors. you're totally not taking a position there, you're just asking, right?

hacks gonna hack...


The SPLC has a long track record as a disreputable smear site.
Having no issues with their smears and lies and trying to turn it around and claim people are smearing them by pointing it out is laughable.

Instead of making an honest point you go with 'they said orange man bad! orange man friend is bad! racist white nationalist! here is a link!! anyone who questions me or my source at all or asks me to point out what i find objectionable is just defending white nationalists!'

a real scumbag move.

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Nov 14 2019 06:27am
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The SPLC has a long track record as a disreputable smear site.
Having no issues with their smears and lies and trying to turn it around and claim people are smearing them by pointing it out is laughable.

Instead of making an honest point you go with 'they said orange man bad! orange man friend is bad! racist white nationalist! here is a link!! anyone who questions me or my source at all is just defending white nationalists!'

a real scumbag move.


the only scumbags are people who are so desperate to deflect from their political side being exposed as white nationalists and racists, that their immediate reaction to it is not to address the issue, but to smear the source.

but hey, hardly a surprise coming from someone who describes the promotion of one of white nationalists' / racists' favourite novels as 'award-winning book recommendation' - 'hey, it's technically correct, so how could it be biased? checkmate, libs!' - reminds me of the "austere religious scholar" headline...
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Nov 14 2019 06:28am
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Thats Alex Jones


Deep down, I love Alex Jones. What a character!

Would be a fun dude to hang out with for a bit...probably end up doing peyote though.
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Nov 14 2019 06:31am
Stephen Miller is fiercely anti-immigration, rejects Islam and multiculturalism, and has an affinity to White Nationalism. We already knew all of that.

What the SPLC essay presented were 75% duds and 25% mildly concerning stuff that fits neatly into the picture everyone already had of Stephen Miller.
Whem skimming through the article, I didnt find a true bombshell.
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Nov 14 2019 06:35am
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Stephen Miller is fiercely anti-immigration, rejects Islam and multiculturalism, and has an affinity to White Nationalism. We already knew all of that.

What the SPLC essay presented were 75% duds and 25% mildly concerning stuff that fits neatly into the picture everyone already had of Stephen Miller.
Whem skimming through the article, I didnt find a true bombshell.


like i stated in my op, it's not really a surprise to anyone who knows the first bit about that scumbag - it's just interesting to have it in written form, particularly to see the reaction of those who pretended it was somehow outrageous to link trump's senior policy advisor with white nationalism...
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Nov 14 2019 06:36am
Quote (fender @ Nov 14 2019 08:27am)
the only scumbags are people who are so desperate to deflect from their political side being exposed as white nationalists and racists, that their immediate reaction to it is not to address the issue, but to smear the source.

but hey, hardly a surprise coming from someone who describes the promotion of one of white nationalists' / racists' favourite novels as 'award-winning book recommendation' - 'hey, it's technically correct, so how could it be biased? checkmate, libs!' - reminds me of the "austere religious scholar" headline...


I'm literally and explicitly asking you to highlight particularly condemning and compelling arguments and evidence.

Stephen Miller isn't my political side

SPLC is a particularly terrible organization and deserves to be called out as such. Their narratives, accusations, and lies should not be blindly believed.

Some white nationalists liking books or policies or people or anime doesn't make anyone who likes or is knowledgeable about those things racist white nationalists too. Thats not how reality and logic works.
However, that is how some smears work.


Don't you ever get tired of being scummy, anti-intellectual and wrong?
Stop and consider a point once in awhile.

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national-socialist op hates jewish people
makes thread to showcase his hatred
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I'm literally and explicitly asking you to highlight particularly condemning and compelling arguments and evidence.

Stephen Miller isn't my political side

SPLC is a particularly terrible organization and deserves to be called out as such. Their narratives, accusations, and lies should not be blindly believed.

Some white nationalists liking books or policies or people or anime doesn't make anyone who likes or is knowledgeable about those things racist white nationalists too. Thats not how reality and logic works.
However, that is how some smears work.


Don't you ever get tired of being scummy, anti-intellectual and wrong?
Stop and consider a point once in awhile.


just because i'm refusing to play your transparent little games of 'point out something that is particularly damning, so i can spin it in a way that suggests harmlessness or plausible deniability' (like describing pushing white genocide conspiracy novels as 'recommending award-winning books') does not mean that the information presented is not conclusive evidence of stephen miller's bigotry, racism, and his close ideological ties with white nationalism.

you've made your own position very clear: instead of addressing the claims or even refuting them, you went straight to quoting right wing propaganda outlets in order to smear the source.
you're a 'scummy and anti-intellectual' white nationalist apologist.
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