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Nov 4 2019 06:40pm
republicans will pretend to be open to arguments and facts, then they will claim it's just politically motivated, they will discredit and smear the witnesses and complain and lie about the legality of the process, they will do their best to avoid the substance of the allegations - and in the end, senate republicans will unanimously vote against impeachment, no matter how damning the evidence of what trump already publicly admitted is.

it's a predictable and disgusting little show. trump is guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo, everybody knows it, and still he will get away with it - those are some great 'checks and balances' you have right there...
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Nov 4 2019 06:44pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 4 2019 07:32pm)
I don't think the whistleblower's testimony is necessary and they probably won't testify in private or publicly. Ultimately, the whistleblower acted on second hand information and doesn't seem to be an important figure in terms of government structure. The report itself was important because it allowed Congress to find the necessary people involved i.e. Taylor, Vindman, Sondland, etc.


There's no amount of corroborating evidence/testimony that will distract cultists from the whistle blower. They don't care about what Trump did, they just want another target to distract with, because so far the people who have come forward served honorably for decades as diplomats or got blown up as a soldier in Iraq, and they don't make good punching bags.
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Nov 4 2019 06:54pm
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republicans will pretend to be open to arguments and facts, then they will claim it's just politically motivated, they will discredit and smear the witnesses and complain and lie about the legality of the process, they will do their best to avoid the substance of the allegations - and in the end, senate republicans will unanimously vote against impeachment, no matter how damning the evidence of what trump already publicly admitted is.

it's a predictable and disgusting little show. trump is guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo, everybody knows it, and still he will get away with it - those are some great 'checks and balances' you have right there...


I was actually pretty furious over some pundits smearing Vindman. As someone who is married to a Russian Jew, the entire family is VERY pro-American. People who left those countries actually appreciate the freedom because they know what it's like not to have it.

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I was actually pretty furious over some pundits smearing Vindman. As someone who is married to a Russian Jew, the entire family is VERY pro-American. People who left those countries actually appreciate the freedom because they know what it's like not to have it.


Relevant article:
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/alexander-vindman-is-a-jew-not-a-ukrainian-mr-duffy/
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Nov 4 2019 07:05pm
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My wife's Soviet birth certificate says "Jew" on it under ethnicity. It's kinda creepy if you think about it.
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Nov 4 2019 07:06pm
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My wife's Soviet birth certificate says "Jew" on it under ethnicity. It's kinda creepy if you think about it.


Is she friends with brmv's wife?
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Nov 4 2019 07:09pm
All that is well and good, except for one thing. We have Biden on tape admitting to doing exactly what Trump wants investigated.






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Nov 4 2019 07:56pm
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My wife's Soviet birth certificate says "Jew" on it under ethnicity. It's kinda creepy if you think about it.


I had no idea you were married. Belated congratulations, Mr. White.
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Nov 4 2019 08:54pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 4 2019 06:35pm)
I don't want that to happen. I want people to post quotes from the transcripts, ask questions, etc. I don't think this thread will be very popular, but it will at least allow for some substantial discussion.


Until we bring up the source credibility

Then you gaslight us with the petty accusation
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Nov 4 2019 08:57pm
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Until we bring up the source credibility

Then you gaslight us with the petty accusation


You don't think Yovanovitch or McKinley are credible?
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