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Oct 28 2019 09:07pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 28 2019 10:04pm)
Not disagreeing with you, but its funny you say that because i just saw them getting flak for going after a RedState journalist for breaking/reporting the Katie Hill story.

The Katie Hill story (non)coverage was particularly interesting as far as media bias goes. I dont think its crazy to think it would have been wildly different if a non-democrat was in her predicament.


I don't think it would have been drastically different. No laws were broken and we're in the middle of a presidential cycle, so a single term representative in California isn't going to get a lot of attention without something big.

We might have gotten a "this is the accusation" story, but it was never going to make national headlines.
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Oct 28 2019 09:09pm
I should note that there appears to be a substantial difference between CNN-Online and CNN-Cable. Ultimately, you should just stop watching fucking TV and READ.

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/
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Oct 28 2019 09:16pm
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I don't think it would have been drastically different. No laws were broken and we're in the middle of a presidential cycle, so a single term representative in California isn't going to get a lot of attention without something big.

We might have gotten a "this is the accusation" story, but it was never going to make national headlines.


She literally broke the rules of Congress by sleeping with her staffer...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 28 2019 09:16pm
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Oct 28 2019 09:29pm
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Good point.
CNN dishonestly tries to make people think they are credible neutral reporters of fact and truth, and breitbart is openly biased.

"This is an apple"







CNN's Candy Crowley famously butted into a Presidential debate to falsely defend Obama.
Rezla Aslan ate human brains and called Trump a piece of shit
CNN tracked down, attacked and threatened to dox someone for creating a pro-trump anti-CNN meme.

Breitbart better than CNN confirmed.


In the words of Tulsi:

"As we saw in the days leading up to the debate last night, both The New York Times and CNN both ran hit pieces,"
"For them to sit there and try to portray themselves as neutral arbiters, as objective and independent entities working with the DNC to carry out a legitimate debate is frankly just a joke"


Lololol that Crowley vs Romney bit was arguably one of the most fascinating things on television to ever happen.

Pres Obama was somewhat on the ropes after the first debate and then suddenly Romney decided it was a genius idea to debate the moderator instead of Obama

Obama must have been beside himself with glee realizing he had the re-election wrapped up that night.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 28 Oct 2019 23:16)
She literally broke the rules of Congress by sleeping with her staffer...

those are more along the lines of suggestions to be fair :lol:
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Oct 28 2019 09:32pm
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I should note that there appears to be a substantial difference between CNN-Online and CNN-Cable. Ultimately, you should just stop watching fucking TV and READ.

https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/


Uh, I dont know about their results. Even at a first quick glance, I already saw them having FOX News as a more reliable and less biased source than National Review, and Politico as more leftwardly biased than the New York Times.
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Oct 28 2019 09:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2019 11:32pm)
Uh, I dont know about their results. Even at a first quick glance, I already saw them having FOX News as a more reliable and less biased source than National Review, and Politico as more leftwardly biased than the New York Times.


I usually have pretty big issues with those charts as well.

They have Vox and Buzzfeed as most reliable and between 'balanced or neutral' and 'skews left' which is just ridiculous.

Mother Jones only "Skews Left" and on par with Reason. Oof
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Oct 28 2019 10:23pm
posting in a propaganda thread. funny how alleged 'totally not trump supporters' keep uncritically perpetuating his anti-democratic, authoritarian talking points.

CNN are bloodthirsty establishment shills that have a hyperfocus on the daily scandals and missteps that trump reliably delivers, but to equate their reporting to that of outright propaganda and deliberate false information peddlers like breitbart, (successfully) undermining trust in outlets that are critical of the emperor, is textbook false equivalence.

just because your feelings are hurt doesn't mean the news are 'fake'... even biased shitshows like CNN have an indefinitely better track record than this administration, that keeps putting out actual lies and misinformation on a near daily basis, without correcting it.
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Oct 28 2019 10:46pm
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posting in a propaganda thread. funny how alleged 'totally not trump supporters' keep uncritically perpetuating his anti-democratic, authoritarian talking points.

CNN are bloodthirsty establishment shills that have a hyperfocus on the daily scandals and missteps that trump reliably delivers, but to equate their reporting to that of outright propaganda and deliberate false information peddlers like breitbart, (successfully) undermining trust in outlets that are critical of the emperor, is textbook false equivalence.

just because your feelings are hurt doesn't mean the news are 'fake'... even biased shitshows like CNN have an indefinitely better track record than this administration, that keeps putting out actual lies and misinformation on a near daily basis, without correcting it.


Do you notice how hostile, irrational and anti-intellectual your response was to this topic that is critical of CNN?

Calling it propaganda and having a tantrum is not a sound argument and does not address the points made.

No one claimed their 'hurt feelings' made the news fake.
Your emotionally compromised response is the only evidence of hurt feelings in this thread.

By your own admission CNN is a biased shitshow and establishment shills.

Trust in CNN should be undermined, in my opinion. It has already been undermined in large part due to their own actions.
You see them as an important anti-trump outlet, which is seemingly your #1 concern in life.
People who dont have that same world view are not cultists or authoritarians.
Its not 'authoritarian' to criticize CNN.

also democracy is trash

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Do you notice how hostile, irrational and anti-intellectual your response was to this topic that is critical of CNN?

Calling it propaganda and having a tantrum is not a sound argument and does not address the points made.

No one claimed their 'hurt feelings' made the news fake.
Your emotionally compromised response is the only evidence of hurt feelings in this thread.

By your own admission CNN is a biased shitshow and establishment shills.

Trust in CNN should be undermined, in my opinion. It has already been undermined in large part due to their own actions.
You see them as an important anti-trump outlet, which is seemingly your #1 concern in life.
People who dont have that same world view are not cultists or authoritarians.
Its not 'authoritarian' to criticize CNN.

also democracy is trash


it's pretty rich that the propagandist engaging in massive false equivalence accuses others of being 'anti-intellectual'.

notice how i called them 'bloodthirsty' (supporting literally every war america could get into) and 'establishment shills' (extremely hostile and biased against progressives and everyone actually challenging the washington swamp) before i called out their current hyperfocus on trump's regular scandals and missteps? an honest person would have acknowledged that, and not lied about my alleged #1 concern in life - but that's just not who you are.

also, it's not authoritarian to simply 'criticise CNN', and even you know that was not the point, otherwise that'd apply to me as well since i criticise them regularly.
what IS authoritarian is to systematically attack and erode the trust in critical media though, and criticising the emperor is literally the only criteria by which this administration (and thus inevitably every cultist) evaluates the press. if they do that they are attacked, labeled fake news, and the president of the united states of america publicly contemplates challenging / revoking their licences (also a typically authoritarian move) - and you are happily perpetuating that simplistic and extremely hypocritical (given how regularly trump deliberately lies) narrative.

why do you think deranged people like the maga bomber targeted specifically those reporters and anchors that trump attacked on a regular basis? because he religiously watched their programs and came to the conclusion that their reporting doesn't meet some objective standards and therefore they had to be removed? no, he was clearly incited by trump's rhetoric - just like the people at his rallies that regularly threaten reporters of those outlets.

there is no equivalence for that on 'the left'. trump never criticises right wing outlets for their objectively LESS truthful reporting as 'fake news', and that's why this whole thread is nothing but trump cult propaganda trying to smear everyone who dares to criticise their precious emperor.

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Do you notice how hostile, irrational and anti-intellectual your response was to this topic that is critical of CNN?

Calling it propaganda and having a tantrum is not a sound argument and does not address the points made.

No one claimed their 'hurt feelings' made the news fake.
Your emotionally compromised response is the only evidence of hurt feelings in this thread.

By your own admission CNN is a biased shitshow and establishment shills.

Trust in CNN should be undermined, in my opinion. It has already been undermined in large part due to their own actions.
You see them as an important anti-trump outlet, which is seemingly your #1 concern in life.
People who dont have that same world view are not cultists or authoritarians.
Its not 'authoritarian' to criticize CNN.

also democracy is trash


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