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Sep 23 2019 01:04pm
If by my side, you mean right-wingers/right-leaning moderates who try their best to be consistent towards both sides.

I think we're too easy on Trump skeptical conservatives. The reality is that guys like Ben Shapiro and others are hyperfocused on covering the reaction against Trump, rather than covering what Trump actually did. The basic script is "yes, Trump shouldn't have stomped that puppy to death, but can you believe the reaction from the media and Democrats? They didn't act like this when Obama left his dog outside in the rain".

Also, the 2% of voters who try to be consistent sometimes don't focus on everyone equally, which can be a problem at times. If Jeb Bush were in the White House I'd be focusing much more on the lunacy of the Democrat primary candidates. I long for the day where I can start disagreeing with liberals more on PaRD.
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There is a faction of the Libertarian Party that is basically "legalize pot, we don't care about the rest". They are also far too focused on the national stage, and not growing their base at a grassroots, local level (it's much easier to find candidates at the national level than the local).

From a "my version of libertarianism" perspective, there's far too much of an anarcho-capitalist focus within the party, which distracts from legitimate functions of government because of a "muh taxes" mindset.

The same wing of the Libertarian Party also tends to scream against government regulations. Some of that is justified, like requiring hairdressers/stylists to be licensed by the state to be able to cut someone's hair. But there is too much "but muh regulations" from that crowd that it ends up sounding like crying wolf, and people stop paying attention when there's a cry against legitimate overreach by government. Santara uses a good quote from Walter Lippmann regularly: "In a free society the state does not administer the affairs of men. It administers justice among men who conduct their own affairs.". For an example, reasonable regulation to prevent companies or individuals from dumping waste into different ecosystems meets this standard IMO, as polluting a river with waste causes harm to people downstream who use it as a source of drinking, and creates an injustice, as a result.

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Quote (Surfpunk @ Sep 24 2019 10:35am)
There is a faction of the Libertarian Party that is basically "legalize pot, we don't care about the rest". They are also far too focused on the national stage, and not growing their base at a grassroots, local level (it's much easier to find candidates at the national level than the local).

From a "my version of libertarianism" perspective, there's far too much of an anarcho-capitalist focus within the party, which distracts from legitimate functions of government because of a "muh taxes" mindset.

The same wing of the Libertarian Party also tends to scream against government regulations. Some of that is justified, like requiring hairdressers/stylists to be licensed by the state to be able to cut someone's hair. But there is too much "but muh regulations" from that crowd that it ends up sounding like crying wolf, and people stop paying attention when there's a cry against legitimate overreach by government. Santara uses a good quote from Walter Lippmann regularly: "In a free society the state does not administer the affairs of men. It administers justice among men who conduct their own affairs.". For an example, reasonable regulation to prevent companies or individuals from dumping waste into different ecosystems meets this standard IMO, as polluting a river with waste causes harm to people downstream who use it as a source of drinking, and creates an injustice, as a result.


the inaction wing of the Libertarian party is the main reason the party has a growth cap. Libertarian ideas are fairly interesting even to those people that have opposite ideals. but each conversation has in it a line that won't be crossed.

a perfect example is gun control. when i argue that we're approaching an Australian inspired event of full on gun grabbing, and that in the meantime concessions on guns could delay or prevent this, i'm seen as a traitor. when my actual goal is to preserve the 2A rights for as many people for as long as I can by avoiding the Australian type full on gun grabbing. Will it be 2030? 2075? idk, but i can start to smell it coming like rain before you feel the drops. slippery slope concerns are valid, they're just not all encompassing. nor do the account for the slope we're approaching that in my opinion can't be put off forever.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 24 2019 10:45am)
the inaction wing of the Libertarian party is the main reason the party has a growth cap. Libertarian ideas are fairly interesting even to those people that have opposite ideals. but each conversation has in it a line that won't be crossed.

a perfect example is gun control. when i argue that we're approaching an Australian inspired event of full on gun grabbing, and that in the meantime concessions on guns could delay or prevent this, i'm seen as a traitor. when my actual goal is to preserve the 2A rights for as many people for as long as I can by avoiding the Australian type full on gun grabbing. Will it be 2030? 2075? idk, but i can start to smell it coming like rain before you feel the drops. slippery slope concerns are valid, they're just not all encompassing. nor do the account for the slope we're approaching that in my opinion can't be put off forever.


Yeah, the perfect is frequently the enemy of the good in L camps, with regard to policy.
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Sep 24 2019 12:18pm
My views on X are 95% correct, and i prevented counter arguments by minimizing the bad side effects.
Nice trick, but i wont buy it. This is political discussion tho.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 24 2019 12:40pm
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Sep 24 2019 12:31pm
White altruism is our weakest spot.
We're getting slapped around on all fronts yet most whites are still on that suicidal do-gooder shit.
My side's fault is it's intellectual honesty and our desire to flesh out ideas genuinely, which causes an atomization so that our small groups and individuals cannot compete with the zerg hives of homogeneous races; races that have never criticized eachother within their race.
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Sep 24 2019 12:35pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Sep 24 2019 01:31pm)
White altruism is our weakest spot.
We're getting slapped around on all fronts yet most whites are still on that suicidal do-gooder shit.
My side's fault is it's intellectual honesty and our desire to flesh out ideas genuinely, which causes an atomization so that our small groups and individuals cannot compete with the zerg hives of homogeneous races; races that have never criticized eachother within their race.


You need to talk to more people outside your own race.
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Sep 24 2019 12:39pm
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You need to talk to more people outside your own race.



I've been around the world with JSOC. Non enlightened are almost always egoless invertebrate.
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Quote (MaliceMizer @ 24 Sep 2019 20:39)
I've been around the world with JSOC. Non enlightened are almost always egoless invertebrate.


Which kind of weapon do you use to spread the White altruism ? :D
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Sep 24 2019 12:56pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 24 Sep 2019 12:41)
Which kind of weapon do you use to spread the White altruism ? :D


Christianity is the greatest vehicle of our selflessness that causes altruism to fault.
Turn the other cheek
The weak inherits the most

Christianity would be easy to blame for freeing slaves, race mixing with the superstitious, and enabling jews. Protestantism stabbed what was left of Rome in the back.

Christianity, even cultural hints of it, keeps whites in their refusal to stoop so low to bonding over natural laws. If Christianity had perished in the 60s, the Christopher Hitchens type heathens would have made the whites a proud ruthless race with political faults you could read about in 1984.

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