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Sep 22 2019 10:59pm
Hell No.
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Sep 22 2019 11:16pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 23 2019 02:56pm)
would you be ok with private corporations holding some means of production as long as they are not publicly traded or otherwise owned/influenced by foreign investors?


I think actual mineral resources should belong to the citizens and be used to better the lives of citizens.
Other than that i am fine with capitalism as long as there are strict barriers to corruption in place.
I do think to operate in this country you should have to have a head office in this country that pays tax on business done in this country though.
Also, there should be no income tax, business tax yes, income tax no.

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Sep 22 2019 11:42pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 Sep 2019 06:58)
This is actually called state capitalism, where the state operates as the primary capitalist. Socialism is generally stateless.


According to the standard literature, "public/state ownership" of the means of production is one of the primary forms of "social ownwership", and social ownership is considered the key common feature of all the various forms of socialism.
So no, socialism is not generally stateless.

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I think actual mineral resources should belong to the citizens and be used to better the lives of citizens.
Other than that i am fine with capitalism as long as there are strict barriers to corruption in place.
I do think to operate in this country you should have to have a head office in this country that pays tax on business done in this country though.
Also, there should be no income tax, business tax yes, income tax no.


Aye!

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 22 2019 11:42pm
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Sep 22 2019 11:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 22 2019 09:37pm)
If you are conducting research on the political leanings of gamers, why do you only ask one binary question (socialist, yes or no)?


Anyway, Germany, definitely not a socialist.


If you're interested in some more details: I do hold sympathies for the historical ideas of social democrats, but have nothing but disdain for what most of them have become in this day and age. And I am very anal about distinguishing socialism from social democracy.


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Sep 22 2019 11:47pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 23 Sep 2019 07:45)
Sprechen Sie Duetsch?


Ja. Möchten Sie mich etwas auf deutsch fragen?
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Sep 22 2019 11:54pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 22 2019 10:47pm)
Ja. Möchten Sie mich etwas auf deutsch fragen?


Vielleicht, auber meinen Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.
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This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 23 2019 12:17am
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Sep 23 2019 12:18am
Karl Marx was right but the people that used his ideals to market their propaganda were/are the scum of the earth.
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Karl Marx was right but the people that used his ideals to market their propaganda were/are the scum of the earth.


He was right in his analysis of the pathologies of capitalism. He was wrong in the remedies he proposed.
And he vastly underestimated the resilience of capitalism and overestimated the selflessness of the average pleb.
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Sep 23 2019 04:24am
I pay taxes and think they're necessary so id guess im a socialist
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