"Although the state is already in heavy debt and this will cost us twice as much, this is what progress looks like"

California has a 1 trillion dollar unfunded pension liability which accounts for 1/5 of the 5 trillion nationwide. Average state debt per tax payer is somewhere around 76,000 dollars.

One day shit will hit the fan because of the debt issue and you will have low iq lemmings blaming the rich not realizing that policy makers are the ones responsible for creating this colossal mess.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 19 2019 04:50pm

Those statistic that merely takes the average times the number of prisoners isn't going to be accurate. Private prisons tend to get the easiest to maintain inmates and therefore wont cost as much as the average inmate.

I like to rely on science and numbers. Unless you have some sort of reference for the bold i'm going to assume you're pulling it out of your ass.

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This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 19 2019 05:07pm

Fair enough. Even though it's AZ, i'll assume California has similar stats. Although a much more telling comparison would be comparing a sample of fairly similar convictions. I.e. 1000 people in private vs 1000 people in public for same type of conviction with same type of priors etc. and see how those costs stack up. That would be apples to apples.

What i said about their debt is also a very easy google search so go for it.

I hope that if there's something positive to get out of this, California is successful. Less people in prison is a net good for society generally, hopefully this doesn't translate into higher crime rates.

I assumed it was common knowledge

Private prisons often get to negotiate the conditions and kinds of inmates they'll house, and will instead, on average, have inmates with a history of violence and/or medical conditions sent to public prisons.

Private prisons charge California more than $70,000 per inmate per year, and they lobby everyone and bribe judges and prosecutors and police departments to fill their cells so they can continue turning mass profit for their owners. We're moving in the direction of rehabilitation programs instead of prison cells, and we've passed numerous laws to release people who should not be in there. In fact, the Supreme Court literally had to tell the state to reduce population because we were close to 200% of capacity just a few years ago. All based on bullshit laws passed in the 80s and 90s.

We also have budget surpluses every single year and a healthy rainy day fund. The pension issue will literally never be a problem because one day we will overturn Prop 13.

Then maybe those judges and prosecutors and police that are accepting these bribes should go to jail instead.