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Dec 12 2018 08:47pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 12 Dec 2018 21:33)
Those are some nice backflips.


says the little fella who claims smart yet is on state subsidy and was intellectually bamboozled by flat-earther despite being a privileged lefty
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Dec 12 2018 11:17pm
This isn't a controversial passage because it's effectively "turn the other cheek."
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Dec 13 2018 02:09am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Dec 12 2018 06:16pm)
The Bible teaches us to obey the laws of the land. There was slavery during the time period of the ‘New Testament’ & albeit it was obviously wrong, it was unfortunately the law. Peter was essentially saying they, the slaves or servants, should still be respectful of their masters.

If you wanted to apply this to modern times, we can take it to mean we should always be respectful to our employers, even if they’re unreasonable, or even dickheads.

The verse is about honoring whatever authorities God puts before us.


Christianity's very existence is a product of people defying Roman law, Peter himself was crucified for defying the law of the land he lived in. Christians for the following 300 years after Peter were also defying the law of the land

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Dec 13 2018 02:35am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 12 2018 08:59pm)
Do the one about beating your slave and not being held accountable as long as you keep him alive a few days



As opposed to atheistic slave owners that would just beat him to death mercilessly?
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Dec 13 2018 02:59am
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This isn't a controversial passage because it's effectively "turn the other cheek."


It doesnt say "dont harm your master", it explicitely tells them not to seek freedom, and condones owning others as property.

Quote (Tuna_BeIIy @ Dec 13 2018 02:35am)
As opposed to atheistic slave owners that would just beat him to death mercilessly?


That American South, known for its huge atheist population.
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Dec 13 2018 03:01am
Dunno i guess i could put it in or out of its context following my bigoted beliefs. ^_^
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Dec 13 2018 07:02am
not bold/red, not official = shit thread
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Dec 13 2018 07:50am
Do you think Jesus would rebel against his master if he was a slave? Can you point to scriptural evidence of that?

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 13 2018 03:59am)
It doesnt say "dont harm your master", it explicitely tells them not to seek freedom, and condones owning others as property.


The Bible time and time again says to submit to lawful authority, and slavery was lawful back then.

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Dec 13 2018 07:58am
Slavery was an institutionalized reality. for the bible to stand against it would have been tantamount to the bible standing directly for war.

cringey atheists have had the easiest time arguing Islam of the Abrahamic religions for a simple reason, there are overtly pro-violence passages. If the bible explicitly stated slaves should shrug off their shackles it would have been sending them to death or persecution of the lash. Slave rebellions have only ever ended in blood, I can't think of a single example of the slaves not being killed and/or hunted to the ends of the earth. (edit, ironically the bible has one with Moses but that's all but proven to be largely exaggerated)

one could logically question how god allowed slavery to reach the meta it reached, if he is a loving god, but that would be moot. god allows terrible things to happen all the time, one can only assume god takes no control of the doings of man or that he doesnt exist.

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Dec 13 2018 08:00am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 13 2018 08:58am)
Slavery was an institutionalized reality. for the bible to stand against it would have been tantamount to the bible standing directly for war.


Jesus was no Khaleesi, that's for sure.
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