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Aug 28 2018 07:54am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 27 2018 11:52pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller

The daily caller is completely biased.


So is the NYT, so is WaPo, so is NBC, so is NPR and even PBS nowadays which is a shame (look at their association with ProPublica)
The question is whether their scoop is true or not, not what their spin is. I care about whether the facts are true, and any functional human adult should be able to filter out the narrative to boil down the facts.
The new details in this article are that Hillary's server was hacked by Chinese who used some backdoor- probably phishing- to install embedded code that forwarded ALL her emails to the chinese.
And that this information was known since 2015, and made available to the FBI investigators, in particular Strzok, who failed to act on it and kept it secret during their public statements and testimony/

This has all kinds of implications in the butterymale saga and even the greater FBI bias saga. If Strzok was aware of actual government actors penetrating Hillary's emails and harvesting them, yet still chose to prioritize the "Trump Investigation" without any actual evidence of foreign connections, only rumors from paid oppo, and then manipulated the wording of Comey's statements to exonerate Hillary by claiming 'extremely careless' instead of 'grossly negligent'- that's a clear example of bias affecting the investigations. They cannot defend avoiding the 'grossly negligent' label if they knew that Hillary was both inappropriately using a private server despite many warnings not to do so and it resulted in the Chinese spying on her.
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Aug 28 2018 08:08am
This guy has a source in the Chinese govt that gave him all the details.

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Aug 28 2018 08:28am
‘Source(s) familiar with the matter’ Journalist(s) of the year 2015-2018 and will probably win the next few ones too
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Aug 28 2018 08:57am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2018 10:13pm)
Honestly, we are way behind in everything cyber security.

The fact is that industry pays so well that we can't retain military or government employees to generate security protocols for the government.

Why would you do a masters degree and work for the military to make 90k a year when you can start making 60k and be up to 100k in three years with a bachelors degree?



So this isn't surprising, but the worst part is it's not something that is likely localized to Hillary's server. It's likely that China has programs like this all over our networks, and we likely have them all over their networks.


Start at 60k? lmao. Programers make more than that out of college...especially for security work.
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Aug 28 2018 09:18am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Aug 28 2018 09:57am)
Start at 60k? lmao. Programers make more than that out of college...especially for security work.



I work near DC and got $75,000/yr starting as a software engineer st a cyber security company.

Still waiting for that $100,000/yr I’m supposed to be getting though.
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Aug 28 2018 09:19am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 28 2018 09:54am)
So is the NYT, so is WaPo, so is NBC, so is NPR and even PBS nowadays which is a shame (look at their association with ProPublica)
The question is whether their scoop is true or not, not what their spin is. I care about whether the facts are true, and any functional human adult should be able to filter out the narrative to boil down the facts.
The new details in this article are that Hillary's server was hacked by Chinese who used some backdoor- probably phishing- to install embedded code that forwarded ALL her emails to the chinese.
And that this information was known since 2015, and made available to the FBI investigators, in particular Strzok, who failed to act on it and kept it secret during their public statements and testimony/

This has all kinds of implications in the butterymale saga and even the greater FBI bias saga. If Strzok was aware of actual government actors penetrating Hillary's emails and harvesting them, yet still chose to prioritize the "Trump Investigation" without any actual evidence of foreign connections, only rumors from paid oppo, and then manipulated the wording of Comey's statements to exonerate Hillary by claiming 'extremely careless' instead of 'grossly negligent'- that's a clear example of bias affecting the investigations. They cannot defend avoiding the 'grossly negligent' label if they knew that Hillary was both inappropriately using a private server despite many warnings not to do so and it resulted in the Chinese spying on her.


the "trump investigation" was not exclusively a "trump investigation" it was a investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, nice spin there. and why does the G.O.P./trump cultists like to ignore the fact that lots of things (not all obviously) in the Steel Dossier have been confirmed & corroborated? Also, that investigation wasn't "only rumors from paid oppo", it was dummy George Papodopolous running his mouth/bragging about (prior) knowledge of Russia possessing Hillary's emails that were stolen... derp...
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Aug 28 2018 09:40am
you know you're desperate if your whataboutism essays revolve around a daily caller article...
hacks gonna hack...
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Aug 28 2018 09:47am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Aug 28 2018 08:57am)
Start at 60k? lmao. Programers make more than that out of college...especially for security work.


That was the starting salary for my brother in law. He's well into 150k now as head programmer though.

Just strengthens the point though, no reason to spend time specializing for the government when there's just as much or more pay in industry.
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Aug 28 2018 09:56am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 28 2018 11:47am)
That was the starting salary for my brother in law. He's well into 150k now as head programmer though.

Just strengthens the point though, no reason to spend time specializing for the government when there's just as much or more pay in industry.


Exactly.

Here gov't jobs have a higher starting salary, closer to 6 figures however, industry has a much higher cap, accelerated growth potential if you're strong in your field and its well known here that a gov't job on your resume is looked down upon. Gov't jobs are assumed to be filled by lazy and incompetent employees who want an easy ride. It holds little weight on a resume.
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Aug 28 2018 12:13pm
The Office of Inspector General for the State Department reported that Clinton was repeatedly told not use a private email server due to national security risks, and she still did.

I have no idea why she was not indicted. The distinction Comey made between gross negligence and 'extreme carelessness' was already pretty vague, and then he delivered this gem:

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."
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