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That's the whole point of reforming the tax plan and reducing corporate tax. Under Trumps plan all of that money will come back and pay a one time 10% tax, which would actually be a nice little boost.

>Wants money to come back.

>Wants to tighten taxes on money oversees

Choose one


along with every outsourced job, right?
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along with every outsourced job, right?


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We're talking about the money. There's two realistic routes here. Either lower the corporate tax and tell them, hey pay a one time 10% and you can bring those trillions to the states or, create more regulations forcing them to bring the money back. The latter would face unimaginable opposition and even whispers of such regulations would drop the markets significantly, i guarantee it. It's regressive policy that would grind our economy to a halt.
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We're talking about the money. There's two realistic routes here. Either lower the corporate tax and tell them, hey pay a one time 10% and you can bring those trillions to the states or, create more regulations forcing them to bring the money back. The latter would face unimaginable opposition and even whispers of such regulations would drop the markets significantly, i guarantee it. It's regressive policy that would grind our economy to a halt.


what i'm saying is that fiscal policy has a direct effect on employment. we can bring the money back but in the long run forcing more operations here isn't going to net the jobs people think it is. it's either a slow bleed or we open it up a bit. I tend to side on forcing firms to bring whatever operations and cash over here that we can, if only because incremental job losses and sector collapses aren't enough to wake people up to the coming reality. i'd also be fine with a market correction, that fucking bubble is getting silly.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 1 2017 10:35am)
i understand the two aren't directly related in that sense, but what effect do you feel tightening the tax code on corporations will have? Silicon valley especially seems like an industry that could pack bags and leave pretty easily moving forward. With shaky immigration visa laws in play and the world catching up in coding or surpassing us it's only a matter of time. Squeezing them seems like gas on a fire to me.


also, In what's left of manufacturing and assembly this tax code alteration will have a direct impact on employment as well, nothing pushes along automation like a change in the status quo.

i don't have answers but we're certainly in a lot of trouble if we're unwilling to tax certain members of society for fear they might leave



Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 1 2017 10:40am)
That's the whole point of reforming the tax plan and reducing corporate tax. Under Trumps plan all of that money will come back and pay a one time 10% tax, which would actually be a nice little boost.

>Wants money to come back.

>Wants to tighten taxes on money oversees

Choose one


it didn't provide much of a boost last time they tried it afaik https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/trumps-tax-repatriation-plan-flopped-the-last-time-it-was-tried.html
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Why? How will that help the economy at all? They won't be putting that money back into it, or jobs.



You dont know anything about corporations. You shouldnt be posting here.

The big point is corporate taxes are power in europe, so companies would prefer to invest abroad. Lower corporate tax in US would bring companies back here.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Dec 1 2017 10:18am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 1 2017 08:25am)
i'm not sure what that does to stop outsourcing tho, seems like gas on the fire. We already lost manufacturing, what happens if silicon valley decides they can just carve out a kingdom elsewhere, it's not as if the internet has shipping costs for code.


Already outsourcing a large # of jobs to Asia for coding.

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 1 2017 08:11am)
Economics has a well-known liberal bias.

I'm a fiscal conservative, so I don't support the bill. I'd like the corporate tax rate lowered, spending cuts all around, and individual rates raised on the top bracket.


A lot of things have a well-known liberal bias. When are people going to start recognizing that it's because liberals are right on a lot of these issues?
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A lot of things have a well-known liberal bias. When are people going to start recognizing that it's because liberals are right on a lot of these issues?


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New liberal IceMage confuses me still sometimes.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 1 2017 10:17am)
You dont know anything about corporations. You shouldnt be posting here.

The big point is corporate taxes are power in europe, so companies would prefer to invest abroad. Lower corporate tax in US would bring companies back here.


Yeah, you don't have to keep repeating it, I should be in the kitchen away from the topics alphas such as yourself want to talk about

Get over yourself lol. I'm gonna keep posting regardless of what you or anyone else here thinks. Also since I don't have a picture book to explain I'll just link an article and hope you get the gist of it


http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-a-corporate-tax-cut-will-never-boost-economic-growth-2017-11
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Quote (Xandriia @ Dec 1 2017 11:24am)
Yeah, you don't have to keep repeating it, I should be in the kitchen away from the topics alphas such as yourself want to talk about

Get over yourself lol. I'm gonna keep posting regardless of what you or anyone else here thinks. Also since I don't have a picture book to explain I'll just link an article and hope you get the gist of it


http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-a-corporate-tax-cut-will-never-boost-economic-growth-2017-11


He's a factophobe and won't click any links or argue their merits of anyone he disagrees with. he's here for soft jabs and circle jerking and nothing more. but engage him if you like, i generally just wait for him to make a claim then ask for his source so i can make fun of the www.christainfamilyplanningresearchcenter.org or something similar source with hacky paid for results methodology.
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