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Nov 23 2017 10:01am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 23 Nov 2017 15:12)
How did Russia interfere in UK elections?


Same shit really. Mass propaganda war. Twitter troll factories n shit. Basically mass posting of divisive and often fake news. Some 45,000 accounts involved in posting pro brexit materials from Russia which were shut down the day after the referendum.
There's no doubt at this point that it's happening, the question is how effective it was and considering the referendum was 48-52% in favour of brexit it would only have to have had a minor effect to make a huge impact.

E/ much like the US where a few small swings had a huge impact.

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I don't see what is wrong with her statement. Russia needs to know that there will be consequences when they interfere in the democratic process of (actually)democratic countries. The West needs to hold firm on that front.



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How did Russia interfere in UK elections?


If Western intelligence agencies say they did, would you even believe them?

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Nov 23 2017 10:07am
We need to regulate social media and kill off anonymity. Twitter must use some kind of ID system.

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Nov 23 2017 10:17am
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I don't see what is wrong with her statement. Russia needs to know that there will be consequences when they interfere in the democratic process of (actually)democratic countries. The West needs to hold firm on that front.


If Western intelligence agencies say they did, would you even believe them?


Western intelligence agencies are not objective you derp. Just like Chinese or Russian intelligence agencies are not objective. If you were to ask the FSB is US influence in Russia a good thing you'd get a categorical no. Stop thinking so one dimensional and use your brain.
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Nov 23 2017 10:30am
Quote (Sakuraba @ 23 Nov 2017 17:07)
We need to regulate social media and kill off anonymity. Twitter must use some kind of ID system.


Yep but Twitter or any other social medias hate this idea because it will expose that a large part of their accounts & traffic is based on shit multis/trolls, meaning less profits with ads. Not to mention Twitter is an american company, this isnt neutral either.

China system sucks and is very dangerous in the long run (complete and silent control of all medias).

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Nov 23 2017 10:32am
Quote (Skinned @ 23 Nov 2017 14:50)
Trump gonna blame Russia for his failed 4 years in the WH? Strong prediction. I think he will blame the media. Anything but accept responsibility for his actions lol.


what else ^_^
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Nov 23 2017 10:35am
Trump may be more orange but you sir are less intelligent and probably having a very serious overeating disorder
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Nov 23 2017 10:35am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 23 2017 11:17am)
Western intelligence agencies are not objective you derp. Just like Chinese or Russian intelligence agencies are not objective. If you were to ask the FSB is US influence in Russia a good thing you'd get a categorical no. Stop thinking so one dimensional and use your brain.


So that's a no?

I never claimed Western intelligence was objective, but I don't have some pro-Russian view that everything they say should be met with some paranoid level of skepticism.

Again, why do you care if Western intelligence says Russia did something? You'll just ramble about propaganda, military industrial complex, or whatever. You fall back on the stupid "we do it too!!!" talking point, even though the US doesn't interfere in the elections of other major powers like Russia does.
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Trump may be more orange but you sir are less intelligent and probably having a very serious overeating disorder


I don't think my diet compares to Trump's though. I don't even drink coke... he has a button on his desk to have it brought to him.
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Nov 23 2017 10:42am
Quote (IceMage @ 23 Nov 2017 16:35)
So that's a no?

I never claimed Western intelligence was objective, but I don't have some pro-Russian view that everything they say should be met with some paranoid level of skepticism.

Again, why do you care if Western intelligence says Russia did something? You'll just ramble about propaganda, military industrial complex, or whatever. You fall back on the stupid "we do it too!!!" talking point, even though the US doesn't interfere in the elections of other major powers like Russia does.


I'd be surprised if they didn't tbh. But it's not about the morality of the action. It's expected between belligerent powers tbh... it's about how we protect ourselves from it and whether some of the major decisions our countries have made have in fact been made because of Russian efforts.
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