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May 8 2013 11:51am
Quote (SaberJohn @ May 8 2013 11:42am)
Honestly. The strength of our Constitution is that it is flexible. We can change and modify our Constitution as our times change. The Second Amendment as written is vague.
It is referencing a time that no longer is relevant, as our times and technology has changed. When the Second Amendment was written, the thought of a repeating musket was
a simple pipe dream. You would have to have several barrels lined up and fire them off in succession. Now, there are rifles that can fire faster than a person can count.
Therefore it might seem logical to outline our rights for today. Honestly there is no need to have a 30 round magazine, if you are out hunting. Really.
You should be a sufficient marksman that you can drop your target with one shot. Even if you own your firearms for personal protection, what is the benefit of having
a room full of guns? The point is, is that there should be some guns that we as Americans simply do not need to own. We do not need to own Assault rifles, or military grade hardware.
We have no need for anti-aircraft or rocket launchers.

That is why I suggest a new second amendment that spells out that we are permitted to purchase, as well as the types of weapons that we are not allowed to purchase.

Don't forget the primary reason for our gun rights is not for home defense and hunting, but to rise against a corrupt government. How well do you think we as people would fair against a military with capped calibers, fire rate, and ammo capacity?

If you think the scale of the crime from stolen hand guns / people who have gone insane is bad, an organized military backed by a corrupt government would yield a lot more pain and suffering. Let's do some cost-benefit analysis here. Connecticut School Shooter : Adolph Hitler...Auora Shooter : Caligula of the Roman Empire... Columbine Massacre : Genghis Khan...

To your suggestion I say nay, and shame on you.

This post was edited by Asno on May 8 2013 11:59am
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May 8 2013 11:52am
Quote (SaberJohn @ May 8 2013 12:42pm)
Honestly. The strength of our Constitution is that it is flexible. We can change and modify our Constitution as our times change. The Second Amendment as written is vague.
It is referencing a time that no longer is relevant, as our times and technology has changed. When the Second Amendment was written, the thought of a repeating musket was
a simple pipe dream. You would have to have several barrels lined up and fire them off in succession. Now, there are rifles that can fire faster than a person can count.
Therefore it might seem logical to outline our rights for today. Honestly there is no need to have a 30 round magazine, if you are out hunting. Really.
You should be a sufficient marksman that you can drop your target with one shot. Even if you own your firearms for personal protection, what is the benefit of having
a room full of guns? The point is, is that there should be some guns that we as Americans simply do not need to own. We do not need to own Assault rifles, or military grade hardware.
We have no need for anti-aircraft or rocket launchers.

That is why I suggest a new second amendment that spells out that we are permitted to purchase, as well as the types of weapons that we are not allowed to purchase.


Not yet. /alexjones
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May 8 2013 01:06pm
Rather than start a new gun thread, I just thought I'd post this here instead: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story

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Gun crime has plunged in the United States since its peak in the middle of the 1990s, including gun killings, assaults, robberies and other crimes, two new studies of government data show.

Yet few Americans are aware of the dramatic drop, and more than half believe gun crime has risen, according to a newly released survey by the Pew Research Center.

In less than two decades, the gun murder rate has been nearly cut in half. Other gun crimes fell even more sharply, paralleling a broader drop in violent crimes committed with or without guns. Violent crime dropped steeply during the 1990s and has fallen less dramatically since the turn of the millennium.


So while most of us conservatives who're already aware of what Dr John Lott's More Guns, Less Crime tells us, it appears that most Democrat constituencies (as noted in the article as "Women, people of color and the elderly were more likely to believe that gun crime was up than men, younger adults or white people.") are painfully ignorant that the gun control bills they continue to push aren't even necessary. So there you have it, polling that shows the public is ignorant of the facts of the matter, yet their politicians continue to push their agendas (hello JayKwik, where's your math now?).
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May 8 2013 01:20pm
Afaik, it's to protect against a tyrannical government..
Not just self defence of a home invasion.
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May 8 2013 01:36pm
Quote (Santara @ May 8 2013 12:06pm)
Rather than start a new gun thread, I just thought I'd post this here instead: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-gun-crimes-pew-report-20130507,0,3022693.story



So while most of us conservatives who're already aware of what Dr John Lott's More Guns, Less Crime tells us, it appears that most Democrat constituencies (as noted in the article as "Women, people of color and the elderly were more likely to believe that gun crime was up than men, younger adults or white people.") are painfully ignorant that the gun control bills they continue to push aren't even necessary. So there you have it, polling that shows the public is ignorant of the facts of the matter, yet their politicians continue to push their agendas (hello JayKwik, where's your math now?).


Gun regulation has also gone up over the same period.
ALL HAIL REGULATION
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May 8 2013 02:02pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 8 2013 02:36pm)
Gun regulation has also gone up over the same period.
ALL HAIL REGULATION


...and down. Don't forget that part.
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May 8 2013 02:03pm
Quote (Asno @ May 8 2013 01:51pm)
Auora Shooter : Caligula of the Roman Empire


:rofl:
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May 8 2013 02:07pm
Quote (dr_j2 @ May 8 2013 02:20pm)
Afaik, it's to protect against a tyrannical government..
Not just self defence of a home invasion.


They have a laser weapon, how are you going to defend yourself?

That shit is over nine thou.
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May 8 2013 02:09pm
Quote (TheBadLuitenant @ May 8 2013 03:07pm)
They have a laser weapon, how are you going to defend yourself?

That shit is over nine thou.


Homemade rail gun, yo.
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May 8 2013 02:14pm
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Homemade rail gun, yo.


You need the latest printer drivers for that
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