I understand things, because in my mind, I hear/feel/see dissonance within the acts of mankind. The resonance of mankind forms a beautiful environment, but when it comes to dissonance, your mind is barricaded by all of its chaos and contradictory. When someone soughts for a goal, there is always an alterior motive behind it. The way this world is set up, we are forced to set goals for the sake of others for our survival+. Yes, we aren't surviving from rabid beasts in the forests. No, we are surviving through a fabricated system of greed and immaturity.

A wise man never has to set a goal, for a wise man never needs a sense of direction. : ) Anyone intuitive enough knows how to act accordingly to a situation without needing to set any goals. Because setting goals is setting expectations, which is setting hope, which is setting false implications of action.

this is devolving quickly probably because it's too abstract. I really don't think you can define the validity of a goal.

Who are you to say what is an empty goal? Just because something may not mean much to you but it may mean the world to another person.

Ask two completely different people the same question and they'll give you a different answer. Ask a person in a wheelchair if they would like to win a gold medal in Athletics and they won't care about that at all. Ask an athlete in full hardcore training and it'll mean the whole damn world to them. Or cry to a lazy person that you were so close to achieving your life dreams only to have it stolen from you and they'll just shrug it off and not feel your pain. They will merely say the old pathetic words of "There is always next year." Now cry to somebody else who had the exact same dreams as you and they will feel your pain and comfort you and do whatever they can to ease your pain.

The point is that everybody will view a goal or an achievement differently. They are all correct in their own way. Now you have given your point of view on something that is defined as an empty goal from your point of view. Yet to somebody else it will mean sacrificing everything to pursue that goal as that is their defining moment.

That being said, who are you to say what is worthwhile to chase for and what isn't worthwhile to chase for?

That is exactly my point, for the first part. It only means the world in THEIR eyes. They make all of these sacrifices for an illusion THEY created. This immaterial value is simply useless when it comes to the drive of real ambition and the ability to take action without creating an imaginary point to reach.

I'm trying to state that this personal value is completely selfish and undermining the important role of direct action. Mankind would be alot more flexible if they were to not set goals, but capitalise on a situation for what it simply is.

It is an empty goal by all means. It is what they apply to this immaterial form. It is that immaterial value I am harping on. It is a crutch. It is a false point of ingress towards a situation. All we should do is act accordingly. There does not need to be a ''goal''. Setting goals will only blind you from focusing on the situation as a whole, without any favoritism or bias. It is all controlled intuition.

I say this, because goals are illusions. They are only something to the person who created it from inward, not outward. And incase you haven't noticed. Everything that ACTUALLy matters right now, is on the outside, not the inside. So these personal goals are false endeavors.

but you're arbitrarily defining important

This guy really doesn't like you believing.

No, I am not. It is simply factual that this world is too vast for someone to focus on one goal. We should face every single shred of what our world has to offer accordingly. Not set a single narrow-minded goal.

When parents focus on the happiness of their children. They only end up disappointing their children, because they sacrifice too much comfort for their happiness, and the children's happiness is prompted by the happiness of their parent. One example of why a goal is NARROW.

When someone focuses on a job they want to get. They hardly every look at the many other possibilities that lay on the side. Thus saying if they end up getting screwed over by reality, all of these possibilities will reveal themselves, and it won't be pretty.

Do I have to make my point any more clearer? Goals are counter-intuitive. No matter how much life and value you put into them.

again arbitrarily defining important. "should"...why do you know what anyone should do?

it's inescapable as long as you're attempting to tell people what to do/believe in

You say that all goals are illusions as they are created from within and for self gain. What about those who have the goal to change the world for the better? They have an end goal and they strive towards that. That is not being selfish by any means. They see that the world needs change and they are crazy enough to try and implement that change. Going out and physically helping the poor and needy. Donating to the starving families in Africa. Going out on missionaries, giving up their own free time to put a smile on the face of others.

What about those types of goals? How would you see that as selfish or from within? The ones that are doing something about the world are also a part of this 'selfish goals for selfish gain'?

I'm simply putting the concept that goals are faceless, and the face that the original goal advocator puts on it does not increase its overall importance. Because any person can willingly use their personal values to protect something. The thing is, our mighty personal disposition towards the immaterial is only fruitless. Goals are immaterialised out of thin air. It is excess. It is fat. So why do it?

You can't say I didn't make any valid points, because I did. I showed you that goals can distort situations rather than work accordingly with situations, simply because a person with a goal is non-linear compared to a man who is simply working accordingly to the situation without any enforced purpose.