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Apr 3 2011 01:28am
Quote (Psycho- @ Apr 3 2011 12:16am)
i didn't see you caring enough to mention the race of the people involved so why inform on the breed of the dog unless you wanted to make it sound more dangerous based on preconceived notions of a pitbull. if it was a golden retriever i feel strong you would of left the breed out because no one considers them a dangerous breed. hell my hound growls when we play cause thats just how dogs act. were the kids with the dog owners around the same age as yours? perhaps he plays with them in that manner? you took it as a hostile action when by all rights if the dog was hostile he would of done something not stood there in an otherwise defensive posture. does a dog charging in and then stopping and acting defensive for no reason sound right to you?

you were right to take precaution but you failed to read the situation after the initial "attack".



Your...we'll call it an analysis...sums up my point perfectly. I don't want to, shouldn't have to, and won't try to figure out a dog's intentions. Any half-respectable dog owner would keep their dog on a leash when it is required by law and certainly wouldn't let it run up on people--especially children. If your hound ran up to my kid and started growling at him, I'd react the same way. I could care less if you think your dog is friendly.

And by the way, there are plenty of reasons to be especially leery of pitbulls. We've had so many issues and attacks here in Colorado (they are the dog of choice of the local gangs) that Denver has banned them from the city.
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Apr 3 2011 01:39am
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Your...we'll call it an analysis...sums up my point perfectly.  I don't want to, shouldn't have to, and won't try to figure out a dog's intentions.  Any half-respectable dog owner would keep their dog on a leash when it is required by law and certainly wouldn't let it run up on people--especially children.  If your hound ran up to my kid and started growling at him, I'd react the same way.  I could care less if you think your dog is friendly.

And by the way, there are plenty of reasons to be especially leery of pitbulls.  We've had so many issues and attacks here in Colorado (they are the dog of choice of the local gangs) that Denver has banned them from the city.


why would you deny your prejudice of the breed in 1 reply and then admit to it the next?

they are a very tough built dog but they are not naturally over aggressive as you've believe. the dogs gangs use are taught to act the way they do just like you teach a dog to roll over. don't blame the dog blame the person

aside from that

i do understand where you are coming from and its completely irresponsible not to use a leash laws permitting or not. you made the right choice in acting defensively and not provoking the dog but i can guarantee other people would of reacted aggressively and caused it to be a dangerous situation. you are ignorant of dog behavior and its something you should take the time to learn if you feel strongly on the issue but that doesnt excuse the dog owners irresponsible actions.

while i view it as a misunderstanding but you are right to be weary of any unknown animal acting the lease bit aggressive just learn to act accordingly because you can't rely on others to do it for you.
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Apr 3 2011 01:39am
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Your...we'll call it an analysis...sums up my point perfectly.  I don't want to, shouldn't have to, and won't try to figure out a dog's intentions.  Any half-respectable dog owner would keep their dog on a leash when it is required by law and certainly wouldn't let it run up on people--especially children.  If your hound ran up to my kid and started growling at him, I'd react the same way.  I could care less if you think your dog is friendly.

And by the way, there are plenty of reasons to be especially leery of pitbulls.  We've had so many issues and attacks here in Colorado (they are the dog of choice of the local gangs) that Denver has banned them from the city.


In all honesty, your kid was probably provoking the dog. Anyway, the dog didn't attack your kid or you so no harm no foul.
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Apr 3 2011 01:43am
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In all honesty, your kid was probably provoking the dog.  Anyway, the dog didn't attack your kid or you so no harm no foul.


given the way the dog behaved i don't think this was hostile at all. dogs bite and scratch and growl when they play or get excited and i assume in the dogs mind he just seen someone to play with and im sure in their household this behavior may be quite normal but he didn't know that and the owners acted poorly which only caused more stress.
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Apr 3 2011 02:23am
...anyone who allows a pitbull to run free , especially around children , should be fined and the dog should be confiscated .
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So my kid and I are finishing up some baseball practice today, when two guys, a woman, and two little kids come up with their unleashed pitbull.  The dog proceeds to run straight at my kid growling.  I yell at the dog, and it proceeds to come over at me and growl.  At this point I ask the douchebag who is just standing their watching to "control your dog, please."  Admittedly, I didn't use my "friendly" voice, but I was still pretty surprised by his response of "she's friendly"--while she continued growling at us.  He then went on--without taking one step toward controlling his dog--to tell me she's never bitten anyone.  He didn't take me seriously until I told them we were not going to be the first and grabbed a bat out out equipment bag, positioning myself between the dog and my kid--who was a bit scared the whole time--and staring right at him.  Now naturally, at this point he apologized and ran over to put the legally required leash on his dog.  Oh...wait...no--he proceeded to swear at me and tell what an idiot I was for overreacting to a pitbull growling at my kid.  I'm glad I didn't have to bash the dog in the head, but I wouldn't have minded introducing this yahoo to Mr. Easton.

Anyway, what is it that makes people think that--since their dog doesn't bite them--it won't bite other people?  And why in the world do they expect other people to take that chance?  I've never met anyone who said "watch out, my unleashed dog bites," yet I'm pretty sure people still get bitten by dogs.  This whole trend of needing to take your dogs with you everywhere you go baffles me.  The trend of ignoring leash laws (not to mention laws about clean-up), is just downright infuriating.


I feel you. I have a small scar on my hand that reminds me of these assholes everyday. When I was a kid some dipshit's german shepherd bit me in a park where I was playing. Good for you for defending your kid.

This post was edited by owlpoo on Apr 3 2011 02:29am
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Apr 3 2011 02:30am
It's funny nobody can agree that the dog should have been on a leash. We just get a bunch of ad hominem, like not wanting your kid to get bite by a dog is bad.
People are giving in depth psychoanalysis about the dogs behavior based on a post they read on the internet.
Dogs are simple animals and even turning on their owner isn't unheard of. Uncommon, but things happen like somebodies wife getting mauled by a jealous dog or a very strong pitbull wants to play by jumping and chewing on a kid.
If it did attack the baseball bat might not have even helped you, their skulls are fucking hard and they're built for that sort of thing.
Probably has something to do with the narcissistic personalities of dog owners.
There's a little more ad hominem for the conversation.

If you're outside keep your dogs on a leash unless you're at a dog park.
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Apr 3 2011 02:39am
Quote (Skinned @ Apr 3 2011 04:30am)
It's funny nobody can agree that the dog should have been on a leash. We just get a bunch of ad hominem, like not wanting your kid to get bite by a dog is bad.
People are giving in depth psychoanalysis about the dogs behavior based on a post they read on the internet.
Dogs are simple animals and even turning on their owner isn't unheard of. Uncommon, but things happen like somebodies wife getting mauled by a jealous dog or a very strong pitbull wants to play by jumping and chewing on a kid.
If it did attack the baseball bat might not have even helped you, their skulls are fucking hard and they're built for that sort of thing.
Probably has something to do with the narcissistic personalities of dog owners.
There's a little more ad hominem for the conversation.

If you're outside keep your dogs on a leash unless you're at a dog park.


The kid defending the dog once posted that his grandmother use to go on lynching parties with her Southern Baptist friends . NN to ever take him seriously .
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Apr 3 2011 03:20am
Pit Bulls are fine, but a dog such as a Pit Bull that is growling at children, there is obviously a problem here.

If it was a smaller dog or a less ferocious dog, there may not be as much fear but pit bulls that are not trained properly or mistreated and are ferocious can be dangerous.

I'd do the same thing, I would tell the owner to respectfully in a strong voice to control his dog and that if it comes at me, I won't hesitate to harm the animal.

I've had a similar situation happen before but the owner quickly controlled his dog and apologized.
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Apr 3 2011 03:31am
Quote (Psycho- @ 3 Apr 2011 07:16)
i didn't see you caring enough to mention the race of the people involved so why inform on the breed of the dog unless you wanted to make it sound more dangerous based on preconceived notions of a pitbull. ...


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Quote (Psycho- @ 3 Apr 2011 07:39)
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they are a very tough built dog but they are not naturally over aggressive as you've believe. ...


preconceived?

why is it that plenty of countries have banned (american) pitbulls? just for fun?
and in many countries which have not outright banned them, they have to be leashed and muzzled
pitbulls are definitely more dangerous and naturally aggressive than rottweilers (which are banned in a number of states of the usa as far as i know)
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