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Sep 30 2025 08:20am
US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said they had agreed to a 20-point plan designed to end the war in Gaza, casting it as a “historic day for peace

“It’s just a part of the bigger picture, which is peace in the Middle East, and let’s call it eternal peace in the Middle East,” Mr Trump said of the 20-point plan. “So this is far more than anybody expected, but the level of support that I’ve had from the nations in the Middle East.”

Hurray, let there be peace at last!
First Israel, then Ukraine, and we will live in a better world lets Hope!

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https://www.britcham.org.sg/news/historic-day-peace-trump-and-netanyahu-agree-20-point-plan-end-war-gaza


:rofl: The Germans need to cross their borders to teach you guys a lesson again. :rofl:

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Sep 30 2025 08:21am
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Sep 30 2025 08:46am
:rofl: The Germans need to cross their borders to teach you guys a lesson again. :rofl:


Split?
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Sep 30 2025 10:35am
I thought you guys bumped a 6-month-old thread didn't they try this shit already?
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Sep 30 2025 11:00am
Just as a rough number, how many palestinian civilian deaths are acceptable as revenge for the hamas terrorist attack?


Its not about revenge. Its about eliminating terrorism. Its very sad that palestinian civilians support terrorist Hamas.
So they are civilians, but guilty of supporting terrorism at the same time.
They are victims of Hamas propaganda, Hamas lied to them.
We need to reach them somehow, tell them "Hamas bad, mkay? Make yourself a new, peaceful political group, and you will have your palestinian country, everybody will live peaceful life, it will be good, mkay?"
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Sep 30 2025 11:09am
Okay, so the war started about two years ago. And how did they manage to break into Israel and where did they come from?


**1. Where they came from**

* The attackers came **from the Gaza Strip**, a densely populated Palestinian territory along Israel’s southwest border.
* Hamas is the de facto governing authority in Gaza, and it maintains armed brigades.

**2. How they broke into Israel**

* **Multiple breach points**: Fighters stormed the heavily fortified border fence using **explosives, bulldozers, cutting equipment, and even paragliders**.
* **Sea and air infiltration**: Some militants crossed by small boats along the coast; others used motorized paragliders to fly over the fence.
* **Rocket barrages**: At the same time, thousands of rockets were fired toward Israeli cities. This overwhelmed Israel’s Iron Dome system and distracted security forces.
* **Communications jamming and surprise**: Reports indicate that Hamas used drones to disable some Israeli observation towers and communications equipment, which made detection and response slower.

**3. Why Israel was caught off guard**

* The border between Israel and Gaza was considered one of the most secure in the world, with sensors, cameras, and walls.
* Israeli intelligence and military did not expect such a large-scale, multi-pronged operation, so the attack achieved **tactical surprise**.

After breaching the border, Hamas militants entered southern Israeli communities, army bases, and a music festival, killing civilians and soldiers and taking over 200 hostages back into Gaza.
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Sep 30 2025 11:55am
Its not about revenge. Its about eliminating terrorism. Its very sad that palestinian civilians support terrorist Hamas.
So they are civilians, but guilty of supporting terrorism at the same time.
They are victims of Hamas propaganda, Hamas lied to them.
We need to reach them somehow, tell them "Hamas bad, mkay? Make yourself a new, peaceful political group, and you will have your palestinian country, everybody will live peaceful life, it will be good, mkay?"


This is not what israel wants at all? Benni actively needs Hamas to be in power so he doesn't go to jail for being a corrupt little weasel.

So your position on the war in palestina is based on you not understanding what's happening?!
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Sep 30 2025 12:14pm
**1. Where they came from**

* The attackers came **from the Gaza Strip**, a densely populated Palestinian territory along Israel’s southwest border.
* Hamas is the de facto governing authority in Gaza, and it maintains armed brigades.

**2. How they broke into Israel**

* **Multiple breach points**: Fighters stormed the heavily fortified border fence using **explosives, bulldozers, cutting equipment, and even paragliders**.
* **Sea and air infiltration**: Some militants crossed by small boats along the coast; others used motorized paragliders to fly over the fence.
* **Rocket barrages**: At the same time, thousands of rockets were fired toward Israeli cities. This overwhelmed Israel’s Iron Dome system and distracted security forces.
* **Communications jamming and surprise**: Reports indicate that Hamas used drones to disable some Israeli observation towers and communications equipment, which made detection and response slower.

**3. Why Israel was caught off guard**

* The border between Israel and Gaza was considered one of the most secure in the world, with sensors, cameras, and walls.
* Israeli intelligence and military did not expect such a large-scale, multi-pronged operation, so the attack achieved **tactical surprise**.

After breaching the border, Hamas militants entered southern Israeli communities, army bases, and a music festival, killing civilians and soldiers and taking over 200 hostages back into Gaza.


So the war started about two years ago and the border was the most secure in the world.
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Sep 30 2025 12:45pm
This is not what israel wants at all? Benni actively needs Hamas to be in power so he doesn't go to jail for being a corrupt little weasel.

So your position on the war in palestina is based on you not understanding what's happening?!


I dont know what is inside Benni head, but he surely knows that you cant have in life everything you want.
Fact is that Palestine is recognized by many countries in the world.
So even if Benny wants Palestine out, he cannot do anything he wants.
The more terrorism Hamas does, the more Israel can do to fight it.
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Sep 30 2025 02:31pm
Doomed to fail. Disregarding how these type of efforts have failed time and time again.. Those who have allowed Hamas to take charge, and their world wide terrorist supporters, are not interested in peace, let alone have the interest of the people of Gaza in mind. Israel bad, but Hamas necessary/justified evil reasoning boggles the mind..
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