What's Going On In Canada With Euthanasia? - Topic

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Sep 3 2025 03:36am

Well Sweden has the Sarco pod

Assisted suicide pod, you don’t even have to be terminally ill , just consent to dying n pay the fee. There was a couple recently that wanted to die together so they did that despite one of them being healthy.

I think it comes down to a religious/moral thing

Working healthcare we already do assisted suicide in every state, its just at different levels.

Patient is on 2-3 machines keeping them alive, in every state family can decide to do make thrm “comfort cares” and pull all the tubes out, give them narcotic pain and anxiety meds so they can die more “naturally” if it is likely terminal, but in my opinion it felt like committing assisted suicide, especially when the families want you to push morphine meds every 10 minutes to speed up their death. (I’d refuse to do it at family requests, some ppl just want their family member to die to collect health insurance or their part of the will faster)

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Sep 3 2025 05:19am

Assisted suicide for people suffering greatly by way of imminently terminal illnesses is immoral, but can perhaps be justified. Applied to people suffering from depression and its murder.

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Sep 3 2025 06:39am

The story of the couple from Britain who went to Sweden for this where one was healthy and the other ill was concerning to read. Until the part where one of them was 84 and the other 80. Some Midsomer thinking over there

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Sep 3 2025 09:03am

Quote (Jupe @ Sep 2 2025 10:44am)

After watching a family member die slowly on hospice over the course of several days I can say, if facing the same terminal illness, I would much prefer some sort of assisted suicide. But there seems to be a disturbing trend that has emerged in some places where these sorts of laws have been passed. Canada first legalized assisted suicide for terminally ill patients in 2016, but in 2021 extended it to those suffering a physical condition. Though it has been delayed until 2027 because the health care system is not ready, the Canadian government plans to extend euthanasia to those suffering solely from mental illness. One poll found that 47% of Canadians support euthanizing the mentally ill, and 28% are in favor of extending its access to people suffering from homelessness. As Ross Douthat observes, once a state concedes that suicide is a legitimate response to some forms of suffering, but not others, people will inevitably challenge the threshold that the state defines.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3wxq28znpqo

So what do my fellow enlightened jspers think about the topic of euthanasia? What should the threshold be for government assisted suicide? Are suicide booths from Futurama just around the corner for Canadians? Is this an cost-effective means to deal with the homeless \ disabled \ mentally ill? What do things like this say about the culture of a country, and its future?

What's the disturbing trend?

For those of you concerned with it, I would highly recommend reading the statistics on MAID before coming to any conclusions.

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/publications/health-system-services/annual-report-medical-assistance-dying-2023.html

This is mainly being provided for elderly people with end stage incurable cancers that provide them with daily suffering and unbearable pain, after they've tried various other treatment methods and medication.

For those who are concerned that people who are sad and depressed, or have mental health issues, will jump at the opportunity, read the criteria for eligibility as well as the statistics for those who are denied.

Safeguards are in place and this is very regulated. Dying with dignity is something that should be supported, especially by those of you who love to spew off their support of free will and independence.

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Sep 3 2025 09:13am

so.. there is no law against suicide, Because it's not enforceable.
This idea of popularizing assisted suicide is dystopian and sinister.

People who support this don't believe in god, they have no morals.
They worship satan and or lucifer.

In the USA we have, "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"
The founding fathers were deists, they acknowledged a god but didn't necessarily worship him.

This means for anyone here who is slow... morally Answering to a higher power.

People who worship satan, and or lucifer, believe they will become god, christ like.
They believe christianity is a pervserion of ancient religion.
Yet these satan/lucifer worshipers, believe god was vindictive and evil trapping man in the garden.

They flip everything around, they think lucifer is good and god is evil.

It brings them happiness to deceive and confuse what they deem "the masses".
This assisted suicide stuff is just another way for them to rid the world of what they deem "useless eaters".

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This post was edited by Mondain on Sep 3 2025 09:13am

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Sep 3 2025 09:49am

People who don't believe in God don't have morals and support Satan.
People that support Satan believe they will become a God.

Wow, really jumping to conclusions here. Can't have a discussion in good faith with someone who believes in a god who supports eternal suffering for those with incurable diseases.

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Sep 3 2025 11:30am

Quote (xrmd @ Sep 3 2025 03:49pm)

If you have any understanding of Luciferianism, you'd know that what I posted is true, just how messed up these people are when they don't believe in god but think they can become god.
or you're attempting to deceive to avoid the veil being lifted.

either way, welcome to political and Religious debate.
You'd better learn fast that politics and religion are intertwined.

edit: Just because you believe one way, doesn't mean everyone believes that way.
There are people in your life and people you've met, who have taken blood oaths to satan and or lucifer.

This post was edited by Mondain on Sep 3 2025 11:32am

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Sep 3 2025 11:54am

Let's think about something.
the medical industry makes money off sick people, its more profitable to keep them alive.

So which group(s) benefit from the culling? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culling
Who is the target audience, who will this be advertised to, who will be advertising it?

Before we jump to the end result, lets critically think about why this came to be.

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edit:
benefit /bĕn′ə-fĭt/
noun
Something that promotes or enhances well-being; an advantage.
Help; aid.

Being culled from the world is not a benefit.
So this argument that people in pain will benefit from this is completely absurd.

Which group(s) benefit from culling the "undesirables" from the world?

This post was edited by Mondain on Sep 3 2025 12:10pm

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Sep 3 2025 12:31pm

Quote (Mondain @ Sep 3 2025 01:30pm)

Nobody in my life is a Satanist and taken a blood oath, but here we are with you jumping to conclusions again. Not surprising from a religious fanatic.

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Sep 4 2025 05:56am

Quote (xrmd @ Sep 3 2025 11:03am)

What's the disturbing trend?

As mentioned in the OP, in 2016 the program started with providing assistance to those who were terminally ill. In 2021, the government expanded the program to include those death is not reasonably foreseeable, which is a rather significant change in policy. And while delayed until 2027, the program will eventually include those who suffer only from a mental illness.

Are you of the opinion that the government should empower its citizens to kill themselves, regardless of their particular situation?

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