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Apr 15 2025 08:38am
the irony of it all is the left who hate him so much made him great. what would the world be if they didnt steal 2020 and and abuse everyone so much. were would trump be if for not all that?


One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it

Describes Trump perfectly. These people are evil what they did to us
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Apr 15 2025 09:00am
The push back resulted in the MAGA movement. “Woke” ideas have led to the average American fighting back. Now we have a mess on our hands because things went WAY TOO FAR LEFT.

Some examples are the “blame the white man” movement that BLM pushed which helped lead to both of Trump’s victories. When you paint the majority as the “bad guy” the majority fights back with their votes.

The LGBTQ+ movement which has led to allowing grown adults parade in front of children in sex outfits on public streets. Resulted in the Target bathroom rape that ruined that little girls life. Resulted in grooming children for transition. This made even a lot of Democrats angry at the status quo.

The continued increase in debt. (Trump ran on a platform that promised to dwindle that. Which objectively has yet to be seen but since Congress agreed that 2025’s budget would be a replica of 2024 I doubt we will see improvements at all). Still it garnered him votes.

The overtaking of our country by unchecked illegal immigration. Which led to a surge in conservative Hispanic votes because even they think no one should be treated more special than them when Hispanic citizens did everything the proper way or were simply born here and want to be treated fairly.

The indoctrination of children and college aged youth towards specific political and social ideologies.

I could go one for a while on MAJOR issues that turned the country against the far left but it really did get bad. Not that MAGA is better.

For instance with MAGA comes a sub group of extreme racist behavior but ultimately the far left is way more concerning than the far right simply because most extreme racists know they will get beat up if they push too far while extreme left openly and regularly commits arson, vandalism and other forms of open season style crimes and then brags about it.


It's really not, it's a simple blip in time where overly progressive ideals have been pushed into the mainstream and will get pulled back where the average person can affirm we are on reasonable grounds again.

Bad is when you have people fighting back to keep a slave, segregation, second-class citizens due to a skin colour or ensuring women don't have the same rights as men because, well its a women so why would they. Bad is fighting your own people at home because they protest a pointless war.

This period of time is not bad and well overblown.

Edit: I am refering to the overly progerssive ideals, not that its not a bad time from a wealth inequality perspective, worker rights, etc. all those other compiling issues. There's a lot of bad movment in those areas and it is a bad time.

This post was edited by SBD on Apr 15 2025 09:07am
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It's really not, it's a simple blip in time where overly progressive ideals have been pushed into the mainstream and will get pulled back where the average person can affirm we are on reasonable grounds again.

Bad is when you have people fighting back to keep a slave, segregation, second-class citizens due to a skin colour or ensuring women don't have the same rights as men because, well its a women so why would they. Bad is fighting your own people at home because they protest a pointless war.

This period of time is not bad and well overblown.


Segregation was nearly reinstated by the democrats socially through the continued “blame whites” push. They are the only political party in the current US that uses race baiting tactics regularly to instill fear to garner votes and it failed miserably this election because minorities are realizing “Hey we’ve been voting for these guys for 50 years and our lives are still shit.”.

They have no strong presidential prospects. Who are they going to push Crockett or AOC? They will both get near ZERO percent of moderate votes.
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Apr 15 2025 09:18am
Segregation was nearly reinstated by the democrats socially through the continued “blame whites” push. They are the only political party in the current US that uses race baiting tactics regularly to instill fear to garner votes and it failed miserably this election because minorities are realizing “Hey we’ve been voting for these guys for 50 years and our lives are still shit.”.

They have no strong presidential prospects. Who are they going to push Crockett or AOC? They will both get near ZERO percent of moderate votes.


And the moderate fence sitting positions said no this round, the push has been too far for the average American, but this is really not a bad period of time. I don't know who the next candidate will be, nor is it of much relevance at this time given we're 3 months into a fresh 4 year term. Always looking towards the next election seems like a pitfall for Americans.
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Apr 15 2025 09:58am
The push back resulted in the MAGA movement. “Woke” ideas have led to the average American fighting back. Now we have a mess on our hands because things went WAY TOO FAR LEFT.

Some examples are the “blame the white man” movement that BLM pushed which helped lead to both of Trump’s victories. When you paint the majority as the “bad guy” the majority fights back with their votes.

The LGBTQ+ movement which has led to allowing grown adults parade in front of children in sex outfits on public streets. Resulted in the Target bathroom rape that ruined that little girls life. Resulted in grooming children for transition. This made even a lot of Democrats angry at the status quo.

The continued increase in debt. (Trump ran on a platform that promised to dwindle that. Which objectively has yet to be seen but since Congress agreed that 2025’s budget would be a replica of 2024 I doubt we will see improvements at all). Still it garnered him votes.

The overtaking of our country by unchecked illegal immigration. Which led to a surge in conservative Hispanic votes because even they think no one should be treated more special than them when Hispanic citizens did everything the proper way or were simply born here and want to be treated fairly.

The indoctrination of children and college aged youth towards specific political and social ideologies.

I could go one for a while on MAJOR issues that turned the country against the far left but it really did get bad. Not that MAGA is better.

For instance with MAGA comes a sub group of extreme racist behavior but ultimately the far left is way more concerning than the far right simply because most extreme racists know they will get beat up if they push too far while extreme left openly and regularly commits arson, vandalism and other forms of open season style crimes and then brags about it.


it doesnrt really look like politics to me. it looks more like warfare. when one keeps the timelines intact things dont make sense and they only seem to make sense if its about maximum agitation.
things like trump wearing a mask and lefties not scared one lil bit of covid then trump taking off his mask and then the left is 100% scared of covid n all mask up
or? trump fast tracks a 'vaccine and the left no way going to take that chit. then later their minds spin out and ev1 has to take it.
remember when the left hated america and wanted to burn it all to the ground and burning american flag? then j6 their minds spin out and they become the super flag wavers and crying for mUh DeMoCrIsY

zucker berg after j6 any wonder why i call them frauds?


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Apr 15 2025 10:15am
And the moderate fence sitting positions said no this round, the push has been too far for the average American, but this is really not a bad period of time. I don't know who the next candidate will be, nor is it of much relevance at this time given we're 3 months into a fresh 4 year term. Always looking towards the next election seems like a pitfall for Americans.


I will be a lot happier when some repair attempts are made to reach out to our brothers and sisters in Canada, Mexico and the EU. We can’t abandon friends out of anger.
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Apr 15 2025 10:26am
I will be a lot happier when some repair attempts are made to reach out to our brothers and sisters in Canada, Mexico and the EU. We can’t abandon friends out of anger.


Can't say for certain what the end result will be, but perhaps many Americans would flop back over the fence again if things go too far in the next 4 years and don't like the silo direction and prefer a mending of global relations or maybe relations will be totally fine. Or if the benefits flow, and it shows it works maybe they don't.

Very much, the whole, not my president, or fuck democrats, it's all missing what democracy is. Once a leader is elected in a fair democratic way, most should then judge decisions or outcomes made at the time, good or bad, regardless of how you voted on the ballot. If things are going well, commend and encourage more even if he's not the leader of your team, he is now YOUR leader, you're better as a country, if things are not, again regardless of your mark on a ballot, criticize that leader. Forget your team in either case, judge by outcomes.

Fairly certain we have drifted from such things though and it's a bit more tribalistic. If the country has moved in a net positive direction over the next 4 years, there should be little need to change course.

For this presidency, obviously its seen its fair share of criticism already of decisions. The biggest focus on trade, will people have to bite their tongue on the outcome. We don't know, its way to early to tell but in a good democracy, people should bite down acknowledge something worked. No actual results right now though, just headline news. Rubber does not hit the road until the actual "thing" happens. Media, big corps, etc are happy to just pump headlines until they're off the hook again 4 years later.

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Apr 15 2025 11:03am
Trump supporters are more concerned about billionaire dollar corporations losing money and being targeted than people in our nation being deported to a concentration camp without due process.

This is why you always look at the bigger picture.

This kind of unrest doesn't come from nothing. It may be sometimes misled or even aimless but Trump is a terrible person who has brought a terrible plague to our country. Many are blinded by him. On both sides.
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Apr 15 2025 11:08am
Double standards

Can't get mad "Lefty" arsonists are suggesting pardons when capital trespassers, vandals, and assualters get pardoned.
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Apr 15 2025 11:10am
Double standards

Can't get mad "Lefty" arsonists are suggesting pardons when capital trespassers, vandals, and assualters get pardoned.


Yeah this too. I would argue people who attack and invaded our capital buildings are far more antagonistic than some random acts of arson.

Trump helped create this precedent.
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