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Apr 6 2025 09:56pm
I don't know what that word means in this context, but if you mean to say there's a free market for health-care in the United States that's about as far from the truth as you can get.


the choices we have to choose from are a direct result of capitalism
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Apr 6 2025 10:29pm
Socialized Medicine
one person would say "they spent a million dollars on him"
while the next person might say "they made a million dollars off him"
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Apr 6 2025 11:42pm
He is talking about literal obesity I assume. It’s mostly because of the fact the average American can afford more luxuries.

1. Most Americans don’t have to toil in fields or do a ton of heavy lifting because we have machines that do a lot of this crap nowadays. It’s also a huge part of why the Auto industry gets outsourced Human bodies simply aren’t needed.

2. The average American can afford more food than they really need still.

3. Because of where the US is situated in order to ship food it has a ton of preservatives and other terrible stuff in it that deteriorates the body.

4. Taking care of one’s body doesn’t scare many Americans (which is dumb) because the healthcare system will attempt to save their life even if they are uninsured with no income and just “sends them a bill” they never intend to pay. (Thanks for the free liver gg type of shit)


1. The same is true for all other rich western countries
2. See 1
3. While the second part of the statement is true, the first does not make sense at all. We just have more regulations than you and stronger protection for citizens from companies in the EU.
4. Literally all other rich western countries have "socialized healthcare" and are less fat than you manatees
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Apr 7 2025 04:18am
So I was at the doctor yesterday and ran into this man (veteran) and we had a full blow conversation that started with “Thank you for your service”. It ended up on him explaining he’d rather be at Scott & White hospital using his tri care than the VA. Ranting about the VA, their “shitty” doctors and services.

My question is how in the hell do we expect to get socialized medicine and services in the US when the largest medical facilities and insurances the government is already in charge of is a failure? What makes any sane citizen think they wouldn’t screw up a new system?


What makes you think the private system is any better than this poor chaps VA? He is just speaking from bias, I'd wager most have more complaints than standing ovation for their health care situation.

For example, in my area of the first world USA even with paying massive premium and bills after the matrix of health care expense, the waits for basic shit like a hearing test for a toddler are 4-6 months.

If I needed specialized care, say work on my heart, my odds are best at something like Mayo Clinic St Marys. Guaranteed insurance denies that effort if that hypothetical occurs then some factory seconds will have to do it.

Sir, our system is shitty. Both expensive, low quality depending on jurisdiction, and long waits on basics.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Apr 7 2025 04:19am
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So I was at the doctor yesterday and ran into this man (veteran) and we had a full blow conversation that started with “Thank you for your service”. It ended up on him explaining he’d rather be at Scott & White hospital using his tri care than the VA. Ranting about the VA, their “shitty” doctors and services.

My question is how in the hell do we expect to get socialized medicine and services in the US when the largest medical facilities and insurances the government is already in charge of is a failure? What makes any sane citizen think they wouldn’t screw up a new system?


The problem is too many Vets with nothing wrong with them scamming government benefits for free lifetime money, and they are also too cheap to buy their own healthcare.
This problem didn't exist when people who actually went to bloody wars and got injured in huge numbers lived.
Because they had morals.
Now its just keep submitting fake claims until one gets approved, then after that keep appealing for more disability money.
The system is over burdened, this shit needs to be looked at and cut out.
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Apr 7 2025 04:50am
That’s the problem. In Canada healthcare may be free but it’s subpar in quality compared to the US.


Based on which indicators?
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Based on which indicators?


Any Canadians that can afford to, visit the United States for Health Care.
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Apr 7 2025 04:57am
Any Canadians that can afford to, visit the United States for Health Care.


So a country's health care system is better than another country's based on the sole indicator of the number of patients that seek health care in the one country while being from the other?
Do you know how quality comparisons work, like, at all? ._.
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Apr 7 2025 05:10am
America has been a failure for quite sometime now. The only chance you guys have is Trump and most of your citizens are biting the hand thats saving you. That's how incompetent the education system is, couldn't teach you right from wrong. Why would you expect your health care system to be anything but a failure as well?

Canada has a superior healthcare system and much better educated and establish doctors.

Remember. America had to take the 1/3 burger off the menu because they didn't understand why it cost more then 1/4 burger. Since 4 is bigger then 3 xD. That kinda sums it up right there.

Anyways America has always been under the bar for everything they do compared to every country in the world. It wont take much longer until we all know what will happen.
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Apr 7 2025 05:11am
So a country's health care system is better than another country's based on the sole indicator of the number of patients that seek health care in the one country while being from the other?
Do you know how quality comparisons work, like, at all? ._.


Yes and Do you?

If any Canadian that seeks any form of serious treatment and can afford to do so in the US does so then that is absolutely a tell tale sign of the quality of that country’s facilities and medical personnel. They sure aren’t coming to the US because of our “shining personality”.

The problem is too many Vets with nothing wrong with them scamming government benefits for free lifetime money, and they are also too cheap to buy their own healthcare.
This problem didn't exist when people who actually went to bloody wars and got injured in huge numbers lived.
Because they had morals.
Now its just keep submitting fake claims until one gets approved, then after that keep appealing for more disability money.
The system is over burdened, this shit needs to be looked at and cut out.


I dunno what your bias against military personnel is but the complaints you have is with the government. They agree to take care of these guys as soon as they sign on the dotted line. The entire blame for any “false claims” situation would be on the structure of those agreements that the government came up with.


What makes you think the private system is any better than this poor chaps VA? He is just speaking from bias, I'd wager most have more complaints than standing ovation for their health care situation.

For example, in my area of the first world USA even with paying massive premium and bills after the matrix of health care expense, the waits for basic shit like a hearing test for a toddler are 4-6 months.

If I needed specialized care, say work on my heart, my odds are best at something like Mayo Clinic St Marys. Guaranteed insurance denies that effort if that hypothetical occurs then some factory seconds will have to do it.

Sir, our system is shitty. Both expensive, low quality depending on jurisdiction, and long waits on basics.


I think it’s where you live. My son (hearing impaired) literally had to wait 3 days for a hearing test and a week for surgery on both ears. This is a fraction of what it takes in most countries with socialized medicine.

This post was edited by MadMan87 on Apr 7 2025 05:12am
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