So you're just a bunch of fucking cattle who eat the feed you're given and accept the language that's taught to you daily?

Been drinking again?

This is rich coming from a guy that makes a topic about etymology then doesn't understand etymology himself.

This is perfectly acceptable in a Mondain thread.

Oscar Wilde did say that “America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.“

Language used seems to be strongly tied to demographic which complicates things. Not everyone is dumbing down, so to speak.

the word "faith" simply means "trust"

pop culture "atheists" did or made the attempt to change the definition of the word "faith" to mean believing in something with out evidence.

it looks like the 'atheist attempt (lying about it) to change its definition has lost ground. but there is a mention of it in wiki
for a while wiki was posting the 'atheist definition of faith as its "headliner" its been rewritten since and is now more truth fully
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith

there is nothing mysterious about the word "faith"

faith
[fāTH]
noun
complete trust or confidence in someone or something:
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
Similar:
trust
belief
confidence
conviction
credence

trust
[trəst]
noun
firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something:
"relations have to be built on trust" · "they have been able to win the trust of the others"
Similar:
confidence
belief
faith
sureness
certainty

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 8 2025 04:07am

please lock this thread

Language evolves naturally as well as serves as marker of whether you are a “part” of a group. Shibboleth they call it. I’m able to distinguish within the first 30 seconds of meeting somebody whether they are a professional in my area and worth spending time on or simply read some Reddit threads and trying to pass as “an expert”.

To give an example, listening to an average Bloomberg interview with a hedge fund manager is physically difficult for an uninitiated as you don’t understand shit for fuck what’s being said. However if you discuss yields, contangos, mean reversions, stimulus as well as reverse repo on the daily - you understand whether the guy is full of shit or not.



Same goes for the military, I can imagine somebody serving for a decade can spot another military simple due to the way language is used.

This post was edited by Malopox on Feb 8 2025 07:30am

The purpose of language is communication. If you can convey your meaning and understand people who are trying to communicate with you, everything else is aesthetic. Slang is only a problem when you try to use it with people who are unfamiliar with your slang. This is generally understood and people will alter their use of slang depending on their counterpart.

There is a lot of slang that is now common which I do not understand. If someone uses it on me I say "I don't know what that means." And they either explain it or stop using it on me. It's not a difficult problem to deal with.



The real problem is altering definitions to fit your rhetoric. This is an attempt at obfuscation whether conscious or unconscious and it makes intelligent conversation impossible.

This is a forum dedicated, in part, to religious debate and yet I have yet to have a conversation here about the belief in god which did not devolve into a failure by my counterpart to recognize the difference between atheism and agnosticism. Defining the terms for them is met with denial. Inviting them to define and differentiate the terms is met with resistance.

You can not have an intelligent conversation about concepts if you fail to define the associated terms. What's worse is you think about concepts in language, so your failure to differentiate between terms literally prevents you from thinking rationally about the subject. It makes you stupid.