Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2024 10:19am)
First off, I think who is president has virtually no influence on the matter.
The president doesn't `control the discourse` but it's plain to see that the Biden administration had an agenda they pushed: see the Title IX reform for one example. And like others have said, including the article from The Atlantic, Harris didn't disavow all the gender politics - she just quietly ignored it. What were her actual positions on the topic? Nobody knows.
Quote (Bart1989 @ Nov 13 2024 10:22am)
I'll accept trans people when they stop trying push their agenda onto me and my kids. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. And honestly I think that's how the majority of people stand.
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2024 10:19am)
I'm honestly not sure. Acceptance of gay people has become normalized. I think it's probably the same with trans people, although the sports side of it really does provide a useful example to people as to the limits of accepting the mental illness/delusions of trans people. Watching a man dominate women in a sport is instinctively unjust for viewers, no matter where they are on the political or cultural spectrum.
So I guess I would say trans people will become accepted and men(who are deluded and believe they are women) competing in women's sports will be opposed.
Again, I'm truly more culturally right-wing than most(or all?) Trump supporters on this forum. Like I'm culturally where right-wingers were at under Clinton, which is far-right of where they are at under Trump.
It's in an awkward spot because, framed in rights, it really is a zero-sum game between women and trans-women. I don't think the issue is going to go away until one side wins.
This post was edited by Jupe on Nov 14 2024 05:42am