Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 9 2024 08:33am)

Look......if you have so much freaking money for a campaign why not use it for student loans.

Call me dumb. Dems have controlled of almost the entire mainstream media in the United States. And they have the best financing for their campaign 11 Billion USD 2024

If You spend 50% of the 11 Billion on Student loans , infrastructure etc etc and you actually did it and the Media proof that you did. You won't be out of the white house now.

I am not just talking about the 11 Billion Campaign finance, the amount of money , donations , weapon loans etc etc to Ukraine for example and elsewhere around the world using taxpayers money.
Ukraine is a god damn farce but then again it didn't started a few years back , all this started after the collapse of USSR when the US became the sole power in the world in a Uni Polar moment.

If you are spending that much money and USA is still somewhat in the state they are back in the 90s or even the Iraq 2000s, I find it fair enough and well founded since you can always lie about your interest and worldwide agenda while USA is still fairly normal.

But you have to sprinkle some LGBTQ, BLM, DEI, WOKE condiments on your society. Even then, I think it is still ok because it's a internal issue and an American problem. But you have to spread it Worldwide.

Quote (Bart1989 @ 9 Nov 2024 15:36)

I totally agree with you and I think it's time to put an end to it. I just hope what happens in the US will eventually reach our continent as well and people start waking up.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 9 2024 01:33am)

Look......if you have so much freaking money for a campaign why not use it for student loans.

Call me dumb. Dems have controlled of almost the entire mainstream media in the United States. And they have the best financing for their campaign 11 Billion USD 2024

If You spend 50% of the 11 Billion on Student loans , infrastructure etc etc and you actually did it and the Media proof that you did. You won't be out of the white house now.

I am not just talking about the 11 Billion Campaign finance, the amount of money , donations , weapon loans etc etc to Ukraine for example and elsewhere around the world using taxpayers money.
Ukraine is a god damn farce but then again it didn't started a few years back , all this started after the collapse of USSR when the US became the sole power in the world in a Uni Polar moment.

If you are spending that much money and USA is still somewhat in the state they are back in the 90s or even the Iraq 2000s, I find it fair enough and well founded since you can always lie about your interest and worldwide agenda while USA is still fairly normal.

But you have to sprinkle some LGBTQ, BLM, DEI, WOKE condiments on your society. Even then, I think it is still ok because it's a internal issue and an American problem. But you have to spread it Worldwide.

Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Nov 2024 16:22)

Well they'd make a dent in student loans but its an astronomical amount. Total student loan debt is about $1.74 trillion, so over 100x the campaign cost
Joe Biden's total student loan forgiveness program would have cost between $870 billion to $1.4 trillion as proposed. He rolled out SAVE in 2023 to modify how the Income Driven Repayment program from Obama works, and it was suspended this year by courts as unconstitutional. In that one single year it cost at least $5 billion on top of the IDR's normal reductions which was something like $40 billion, I think? ($475 billion projected over 10 years). And that's not counting paused interest under covid, there were 41 months of student loan freezes without interest or repayment and that cost an additional $195 billion, though that started with Trump. Then there were various programs for targeted debt relief and additional debt relief programs, few hundred billion idk.

Actually the proposed Biden debt relief program total cost over 10 years would be more than the entire federal higher education spending in all prior modern US history. And about half the total amount of all education spending combined. And that's comparing 10 years of student loan forgiveness alone to all K-12 spending, childcare / pre-K, tax credits, higher ed spending, federal subsidies, pell grants. Everything going to state and local assistance, etc, all the spending from after the NDEA by Eisenhower
basically its an astronomical fuckton of money
also please consider that Dune 2 and Joker 2 had the same budget, completely unrelated but I thought I'd throw that in there


/e also remember how Kamala kept catching flak for appearing with celebrities like Beyonce / etc who then just talked instead of performing for the crowd? Turn's out that Kamala's actual concert performances with Megan Thee Stallion, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Jon Bon Jovi and Christina Aguilera wound up costing her campaign $20 million combined. And they scuttled some planned concerts as the budget dried up, no Alanis Morisette. Fucking bravo to whatever campaign strategist thought that was a justifiable use of campaign coffers, Trump got more publicity riding in a fucking dump truck :rofl:

Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 9 2024 09:22am)

Well they'd make a dent in student loans but its an astronomical amount. Total student loan debt is about $1.74 trillion, so over 100x the campaign cost
Joe Biden's total student loan forgiveness program would have cost between $870 billion to $1.4 trillion as proposed. He rolled out SAVE in 2023 to modify how the Income Driven Repayment program from Obama works, and it was suspended this year by courts as unconstitutional. In that one single year it cost at least $5 billion on top of the IDR's normal reductions which was something like $40 billion, I think? ($475 billion projected over 10 years). And that's not counting paused interest under covid, there were 41 months of student loan freezes without interest or repayment and that cost an additional $195 billion, though that started with Trump. Then there were various programs for targeted debt relief and additional debt relief programs, few hundred billion idk.

Actually the proposed Biden debt relief program total cost over 10 years would be more than the entire federal higher education spending in all prior modern US history. And about half the total amount of all education spending combined. And that's comparing 10 years of student loan forgiveness alone to all K-12 spending, childcare / pre-K, tax credits, higher ed spending, federal subsidies, pell grants. Everything going to state and local assistance, etc, all the spending from after the NDEA by Eisenhower
basically its an astronomical fuckton of money
also please consider that Dune 2 and Joker 2 had the same budget, completely unrelated but I thought I'd throw that in there


/e also remember how Kamala kept catching flak for appearing with celebrities like Beyonce / etc who then just talked instead of performing for the crowd? Turn's out that Kamala's actual concert performances with Megan Thee Stallion, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Jon Bon Jovi and Christina Aguilera wound up costing her campaign $20 million combined. And they scuttled some planned concerts as the budget dried up, no Alanis Morisette. Fucking bravo to whatever campaign strategist thought that was a justifiable use of campaign coffers, Trump got more publicity riding in a fucking dump truck :rofl:

Quote (Bart1989 @ 9 Nov 2024 17:16)

Trump's campaign and his sharpness as a man in general were brilliant though. The garbage truck was genius haha.

I fucking love this turn of events really. As I said multiple times on different platforms already, I can't wait for this anti-government and corrupt media virus to arrive here in Europe.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 9 2024 10:31am)

They are probably going to Canada. But Canada might build a wall.

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Quote (Dmitriy @ Nov 8 2024 11:22pm)

Feels like the soviet union commies fled Russia to here and inserted their commie propaganda roots into the US.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 8 2024 11:55pm)

Liberals do not understand that LGBTQ, BLM, DEI, WOKE is the minority and it is not a sub culture that can be made into mainstream culture Domestically and Worldwide.

And I want to be fair and precise about Liberals since at this day and age and due to America's education system, 95% of you (If it helps, most of the world too) can't differentiate political and culture ideologues.

They don't understand the difference of Classical Liberals, Far left progressive Liberals, Democracy, Marxism, Leninism, Maoism, Socialism, conservatism, fascism, patronage systems etc etc etc, which is understandable because you need to have interest to read and research into it.

Basically the world just lump everything together and made it simple Left and Right. The concept of a centrist , center left and center right seems to disappear as well.

There is this rather derogatory epithet ( if you consider it as one ) by the Chinese written about white left leaning Americans in the late 2000s or early 2010s. And I find it rather hilarious and funny.

Here it goes, as translated into English.

It is called 白左 translated into English. White Left

So what exactly is a White left?



"White left is a popular term coined by Mainland Chinese (China) to describe the American or European left that they despised due to the liberal's pretentiousness, hypocritical behavior and overbearing sense of entitlement.

White left are characterized by their heavy use of political correctness and double standards to covertly advance their own material and emotional interest at the expense of others.
while claiming otherwise from a self assumed superior moral position.

Although some are non malicious they are too naive and lack the worldview to provide useful opinions or solutions to real societal problems domestically and worldwide.



This is what they think of the Democrats and the Left in USA."