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Oct 9 2024 12:45am
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Oct 9 2024 04:47pm)
neither.

Let Israel without backup fight the Palestinians & their allies. No U.S money and no U.S military.

Lets see hold they hold up.


Israel would be the only thing left standing.
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Oct 9 2024 01:50am
Quote (Malignanttumor666 @ Oct 9 2024 01:47am)
neither.

Let Israel without backup fight the Palestinians & their allies. No U.S money and no U.S military.

Let’s see hold they hold up.


Nahhh if we’re gonna give hundreds of billions to Ukraine then we can give a few billion to Israel to fight off terrorists who want to wipe them off the face of the Earth
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Oct 9 2024 07:47am
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Nahhh if we’re gonna give hundreds of billions to Ukraine then we can give a few billion to Israel to fight off terrorists who want to wipe them off the face of the Earth


The United States having positive relations with Russia benefits both of our countries and it's peoples. How ironic they place us against each other as if the average American despises the average Russian(not true).

Helping Israel defend itself from terrorist has a lot to do with the United States wanting to keep it's "War on Terror" going perpetually and it just so happens to benefit Israel on many levels. The United States probably feels partially responsible for the uptick in attacks going back to 2001 because we created/funded a lot of "extremist groups" across the ME to sow terrors' and division amongst their own peoples.

A "Palestinian state" is not going to magically solve anything it would only complicate an already complicated region of the world.

I voted "no" not because I dislike the average Palestinian but more so the potential for it to be used in the future as a "firestarter" in the ME. Basically repeating what Israel is today where because of it's "status change" after WW2 it became a focal point for the potential WW3.
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Oct 9 2024 09:29am
I votes yes, but it needs to happen after Hamas is obliterated by Israel and the Palestinians start to care more about building their own society than tearing down Israel's.
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Oct 9 2024 09:31am
I support a two state solution.

For Ukraine.
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Oct 9 2024 09:40am
Quote (El1te @ Oct 9 2024 11:31am)
I support a two state solution.

For Ukraine.


My guess is the Trump supporters who held this position before 2018 are close to 0%.
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Oct 9 2024 10:01am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 9 2024 08:40am)
My guess is the Trump supporters who held this position before 2018 are close to 0%.


People have taken the time to educate themselves, and it's obviously clear that Ukraine should be bifurcated into West & East
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Oct 9 2024 10:05am
Quote (N19 @ Oct 9 2024 10:50am)
Nahhh if we’re gonna give hundreds of billions to Ukraine then we can give a few billion to Israel to fight off terrorists who want to wipe them off the face of the Earth


Do Americans really think that the money provided is “free”?
I honestly wanna know
I don’t know about Ukraine, but the rush of USA army officials to Israel never stopped for a second and those guys didn’t come to advise or coordinate anything. They are here to upgrade their combat doctrine.

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Quote (El1te @ Oct 9 2024 12:01pm)
People have taken the time to educate themselves, and it's obviously clear that Ukraine should be bifurcated into West & East


People have taken the time to adopt the views of the cult leader and his various media minions. No thinking was involved.
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Oct 9 2024 10:14am
they got a soft launch of statehood in 2006, when Israel pulled out of the Gaza strip leaving behind a flourishing greenhouse business. They were allowed to democratically elect leaders, given the promise (later realized) of work permits in Israel, and were allowed aid from the UN and the West.

they elected a terrorist group as leaders, smashed the greenhouses, used the aid to make bombs, and abused work permits to do recon for the 10-7 attack.

its certainly hard not to feel empathy for the people who live there, its hell to be sure. but they're not under the thumb of israel for no reason, they face an embargo because otherwise they'd use every ounce of fuel and supplies Iran sends them to create rockets. if the blockade is removed they'll attack themselves into another war on their own soil inside of a few years. if they're given a state it needs to be in timeout far from Israel, maybe the Saudis could shave off a chunk for them, its not as if Gaza is a large place. maybe 3d print an island.
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