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Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 21 2024 01:04am)
This is insightful, as I have wondered if the usage of "mental illness" by conservatives conveys a genuine viewpoint of mental illness, or if it's a misnomer for a different sentiment--perhaps a social contagion, like you're saying.


wouldn't take my word as a blanket statement for the conservative view

I don't find it particularly useful or have any desire to strictly define transgender as mentally ill or care when someone say "erm actually it's not in the DSM-5" because not only is that imprecise science, we don't base our morality off of how things are defined.

I suspect most right leaning people view it as people who have been indoctrinated and/or mentally/physically abused and I suspect the compilation videos are attacking the ideology or the ideas the transgender person is saying rather than just insulting the mentally ill person directly

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My quandary comes from a personal belief that if I were to view a person, or a demographic of people, as "mentally ill" then I would have certain principles and expectations for myself with respect to how I speak about them and with other people. Making compilation videos, reaction videos, and eviscerating people in comment sections would not align with my personal views on this. I wouldn't accept this with any other form of mental illness, such as people with schizophrenia, and I imagine most people wouldn't either. What I assume then, is that transgender people are an exception in the category of "mental illness", and so the usage probably conveys some alternative meaning than standard usage of the term.


why all the sheltering?

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Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 21 2024 03:08am)
My quandary comes from a personal belief that if I were to view a person, or a demographic of people, as "mentally ill" then I would have certain principles and expectations for myself with respect to how I speak about them and with other people. Making compilation videos, reaction videos, and eviscerating people in comment sections would not align with my personal views on this. I wouldn't accept this with any other form of mental illness, such as people with schizophrenia, and I imagine most people wouldn't either. What I assume then, is that transgender people are an exception in the category of "mental illness", and so the usage probably conveys some alternative meaning than standard usage of the term.


Your wasting my time, the issue is clear cut.
It's a fucking cult look at how they treat people when they eventually de transition.
I have a niece who was into all the cringy trans stuff, and claiming she was a boy, going to have her tits chopped off when she was 18.
As soon as she was removed from the liberal states public education system, and away from the shit show that was her mom, it all stopped.

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wouldn't take my word as a blanket statement for the conservative view

I don't find it particularly useful or have any desire to strictly define transgender as mentally ill or care when someone say "erm actually it's not in the DSM-5" because not only is that imprecise science, we don't base our morality off of how things are defined.

I suspect most right leaning people view it as people who have been indoctrinated and/or mentally/physically abused and I suspect the compilation videos are attacking the ideology or the ideas the transgender person is saying rather than just insulting the mentally ill person directly



why all the sheltering?


Most people blur the lines and dehumanize the individual as well
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Your wasting my time, the issue is clear cut.
It's a fucking cult look at how they treat people when they eventually de transition.
I have a niece who was into all the cringy trans stuff, and claiming she was a boy, going to have her tits chopped off when she was 18.
As soon as she was removed from the liberal states public education system, and away from the shit show that was her mom, it all stopped.


You being divorced makes so much sense
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Just listen to this trans talk, the need for validation is insane. Guess who else needs validation? Narcissistic personality disorder(npd) person. Npd would go so far as fake “throwing up” in the bathroom during a holiday dinner just so the whole room can “focus” on them.


It’s not just conservatives are saying it, experts who diagnose people personality disorders are saying it and those have more credibility.

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Most people blur the lines and dehumanize the individual as well

Yeah I suspect that to happen

specifically handcuffs mentioned "TikTok reaction videos (I've seen Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens do this in particular), and share other forms of content where then conservatives absolutely eviscerate the people featured in terms of their physical appearance, attire, speech, mannerisms, etc."

I would expect those people to generally not hate or dehumanize the individual but see them as a victim and detest the ideology when taken at a deeper level. I can definitely imagine an immediate disgust or disapproval reaction to absurd outward appearances though
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they're like those weirdo furries/animal kins except they won 2nd place in the oppression olympics and have power over half the country
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Aug 21 2024 05:22am
Schizophrenics don’t use literally every institution and tool available to recruit children to become schizophrenics.

Jeffery Marsh is a speaker at the fucking DNC.
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Given that the prevailing opinion is that this is a form of mental illness, I wonder what are the standards, principles, or expectations amongst conservatives for when you speak about, or with each other about, people with mental illness?


As trans issues became mainstream 5 or 10 years ago, my one rightoid friend was constantly upset that the "treatment" these mentally ill people were encouraged to pursue inevitably led to, in his words, mutilation.
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Quote (duffman316 @ 21 Aug 2024 06:09)
they're like those weirdo furries/animal kins except they won 2nd place in the oppression olympics and have power over half the country


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