We are not perfect, cannot be perfect, will not ever be perfect... I'm sorry that you have experienced a hurt by someone who has twisted this into something evil......

These verses talk about us ALL. No delineation. We ALL have failed and deserve hell. We are no different. When Christians begin to practice this, i think it will help a bit. But most of the time, we are snarky, rude, condescending, and stuck up... Kinda like Scientology, where we treat people as "Suppressing Persons" and avoid them at all costs....

Romans 6:23
Romans 3:23
Romans 10:9,10, and 13
Romans 5:8

Then when you go to Romans 6 at the start of the chapter, it talks about how we receive grace when we are forgiven of our sins, so it sounds like we should sin to continue winning!!! But noooooooo. It says that we should not sin, even though we receive grace, we should not sin. Because Christ paid the punishment already, doesn't give us the right to sin.

Jesus taught us to pray for those who condemn us and to love our enemies. Matthew 5:43-48 is the passage if you should want to read it. Honestly, i encourage anyone to read in context... Matthew 5:27 that you point out is part of the Sermon on the Mount and has a lot more to it than just that one statement. It's also an opening statement to a paragraph, kinda like "Four Score and Seven Years Ago..." and you wouldn't pick that statement and dissect it to make Lincoln some math guy. You should be curious to read more and learn, I would hope.

Are we not all, as humans, tempted by sin? For crying out loud, even though my sexual attraction happens to be straight, I look at women other than my wife and there is a natural flesh response to want to "know" them sexually. But I choose to put those feelings down. Do I win every time? In my head, no... but in my pants, YES. I choose to be with my wife and my wife alone.

Those verses you point out are not talking about just Orange Man Donald Trump. The reason they can be pointed in his direction is because they can be pointed in EVERYONE's direction. We all struggle with the same things.... But understand that the only person that can actually meet all the conditions you have pointed out above is Jesus. He lived like we should/could so that we don't have to spend eternity without the presence of God. That is a scary prospect.....

except blasphemy of the holy spirit

and yeah plague the original post doesn't exactly pose a question but both are sins.

homosexuals are given a lot of leeway (when defined as being viewed as something negative) in the modern era, and possibly more than adulterers depending on the case by both the right and left.

This post was edited by majorblood on Jul 12 2024 05:29am

Donald trump is bad, m’mkay?

You shouldn’t like Donald trump, m’mkay.




I’m sorry you have devolved into seeking exact bible passages and pointing out how Donald Trump isn’t the pope? Dude, get a fucking grip. You are losing it.

Some times don’t y’all wish the Bible didn’t have such an influence on the world’s culture? People like this fucking retard would still be aboriginals slaughtering their children to appease the rain god.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Jul 12 2024 05:39am

Does a MALE or FEMALE think that by having intercourse with the same sex they will be able to bear children(not talking about adoption either). No. They simply prefer the same sex out of some underlying tendency not necessity. That is why EVERYONE sees it as being strange/weird/odd because if you are not having sex to produce offspring you are essentially "lost in the pleasure". This is where homosexuals make excuses for committing actions that are against their nature. Of course most LGBTQ+ persons are good people but if science didn't forge a way for them to have "surrogate/adoption" they as a people could only continue on as they have since ancient times. Being different from everyone else in action and thought but denying their TRUE nature(male or female).



We are not animals. See Genesis.

In the words of Vivekananda when speaking of the "human being"...

The Vedanta says, there is nothing that is not God. It may frighten many of you, but you will understand it by degrees. The living God is within you, and yet you are building churches and temples and believing all sorts of imaginary nonsense. The only God to worship is the human soul in the human body. Of course all animals are temples too, but man is the highest, the Taj Mahal of temples. If I cannot worship in that, no other temple will be of any advantage. The moment I have realized God sitting in the temple of every human body, the moment I stand in reverence before every human being and see God in him — that moment I am free from bondage, everything that binds vanishes, and I am free.

Only a human being can contemplate such things and such is the way which led to homosexuality in humans. Animals are conscious but not conscious in the same way as humans so the whole "animals can be homosexual too" is actually really silly because it is a bad representation of "human homosexuality".

There is mention of homosexuals in ancient Indian texts that date back thousands of years(prior to all Abrahamic religions) even then it was seen as being "strange/weird/odd" because two male frogs humping each other is not the same as two grown men or woman doing the same thing. It's not even about what's right or wrong.

So why do LGBTQ+ cry out for attention because they are different? They chose that lifestyle so why not just do it in private(which is what most people who don't care what your "sexual preference" is actually think). Do the other homosexual creatures of the planet "come out of the closet" and say "Do this! It's amazing!". No. Only a human has the consciousness to make such distinctions and most people who identify as LGBTQ+ feel embarrassed/ashamed for "being the way they are" not because they are actually "different" but because they are the 1% who isn't acting like the other 99%. This is also why LGBTQ+ people get offended so easily(at least in my experiences) because instead of realizing they are "God" in a different form they instead choose to be reviled by you a regular straight person. Showing the same ego. They care more about what the world thinks of them instead of being full of total confidence knowing they are "god". Why is that?

+1 Very well said! Wish I could put it as concise as you have!

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 12 2024 08:07am

dumb thread

"Surely I can combine my hate for Christianity and TDS into one"

Dumb because we don't believe the stuff you believe? Just asking for a friend.

Dumb because OP has rudimentary understanding of Christianity, almost child like, and the whole point of this thread is to try to merge two things he dislikes (Christians and the orange) in some sort of moral gotcha. As if sins are ranked. As if because a Christian votes for Trump that must be an endorsement of his sins.

I think OP was just in general re-glossing over the Bible and found Trump to be "ungodly" or seemingly not held to account by his peers or supporters(people do make excuses for his shitty actions and condescending disingenuous nature)

We are talking about the Bible that was written during a time when 20,000 people were crucified right alongside Jesus. People act like he was the "first". People act like Jesus Christ wasn't a flesh and blood human being(he was).

Whole point of the Bible is to get you to realize the God you seek lies in your own heart. There is not some omnipotent being counting your thoughts/deeds/actions. YOU are. YOU alone. When you read the Bible "God" isn't reading it to you nor did he write it.

Jesus Christ was simply the best amongst us or someone who strived for spiritual perfection/union with "God" at a time when most couldn't read or write. Jesus Christ used the language/symbols available to him to help people see the one underlying truth. It's all you. So take care about what you do and what you think.

Trump like every other POTUS strives to get the backing of the "Christians" because they are one of the largest voting blocks. Politicians are TERRIBLE in their agendas which are the furthest from any "God" we have a name for. Trumps EGO is too big and him saying he's religious is a joke to me. So is Joe Biden saying he's a "Catholic". Furthest people from it.

You're mixing up your morals with biology. There is no good or bad in biology, nothing you're supposed to do or not. You have what it takes to prevail as an individual and species or not.