never really cared about the individual and know nothing thats going on about him, was always loud and annoying to me

This is America not France, there is no law against talking about... Chobani Yogurt?
Civil law =/= criminal law, he got sued for defamation not arrested for breaking a law, we don't lock up people for speaking their political views

I don't think causing innocent victims to suffer the pain of being told their child wasn't gunned down for years, not to mention the intense harassment these people faced, should be allowed. He was and is an influencer and he used his reach to instill conspiracy

Meant to say, it's not the same

This post was edited by blahaj on Jun 15 2024 10:38am

I understand the concept you referring to, I means this idea of complete "freedom" of "political views". Unfortunately it isn't actually even "views", but more likely some kind of very agressive trolling crap and/or defamation dividing society, hurting people (or businesses) in order to... Get money for oneself... Selling buthole cream for 50$.
If I follow this concept of total freedom btw the situation would have "naturally" resolved by itself (like libertarian free market magics you see?) if someone shot him point blank 3 times in the belly for his insane bullshit.

What you want ? That everyone acts like this guy ? This is destroying your country, even our countries. I will not reject the idea to give these people the maximum freedom possible anyway. I means: Til it not hurts too many.

default judgement

You think the families of mass shooting victims should be harassed and lied about with no protection?

Did he commit the crime of harassment in CT state law as a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum 90 days in jail or a $500 fine? Narrowly defined as requiring communication directly to the victims in a manner likely to cause terror, intimidation or alarm, via telegraph or mail or electronic facsimile or telephone call, or meeting place only if it originated or was received within the jurisdiction?

He's not breaking the law, its a civil case with a civil remedy. And in a sane and functional court system that would mean he'd be found liable for harassment and ordered to provide proportional and reasonable recompense. You know, maybe something as hefty as a few thousand bucks in fines. Instead they ordered him to pay a preposterously astronomical sum greater than the GDP of the Solomon Islands. They ordered him to pay 15x the cost of India's Chandrayaan-2 moon mission.


This is not a subtle point or hard to pick up. Viewpoint discrimination on the basis of applying wildly disproportionate and unreasonable civil penalties is discriminatory and unconstitutional. If you said you're going to apply 1500000x the penalties to black men who commit the same offense as white men, we'd instantly call it institutional racism that's expressly forbidden by the 14th amendment. If a white guy gets a sentence of 2 minutes in prison for a crime and a black guy gets 5.7 years, that's racist. And if a judge and jury are going to completely give a pass to people posting conspiracy theories online about Israeli victims of October 7th or the Trump supporter ambushed and murdered in Portland or the people attacked by the mob during the George Floyd riots (including baseless and inflammatory conspiracy theories spread by politicians like the mayor), but at the same time they will turn around and fine Alex Jones more money than the combined budgets of all four disney star wars movies because of the mean words he said- its clearly viewpoint discrimination, punishing someone for their political beliefs and affiliation.

I listened to Infowars during the time frame of the Sandy Hook shooting and never ONCE did I get the feeling like he was telling me to go piss on kids graves. Never once did he say, "I know the shooting was staged here is the proof". Never once did he do anything more then entertain "conspiracy theories" that mass shootings can and are used to promote gun control. He had multiple guests on his show that week to talk about it.

Now you tell me why it took YEARS for the victims to bring a lawsuit like this up? Alex Jones didn't kill the kids at Sandy Hook right?

I think it's so funny how INNOCENT Alex Jones really was in all this but unless you listened to his show you wouldn't know.

If Alex Jones said the kids didn't die at Sandy Hook I would've stopped listening but he didn't so????

Alex Jones wasn't "innocent until proven guilty". He was "guilty but how guilty are you".

Dudes just a regular Texan dad who gives a shit about this country.

I always find it funny when people talk shit about Alex Jones....."Ever heard one of his broadcast?".........."No! Fuck that child death denier! I get my facts from CNN!"

He was ordered to pay a lesser amount and he kept talking. It's not hard to see the timeline. He just ignored the fines until it got to a point he actually felt it. Boo hoo.



Yikes

Another example of the attacks on freedom of expression in the works, we'll see how it pans out in court tomorrow:
https://www.conservativehq.com/post/conservative-journalist-michael-patrick-leahy-headed-for-jail-over-reporting-on-transgender-killer

Journalist and Editor/CEO of a news platform Michael Patrick Leahy is facing jailing by a judge in Tennessee if he refuses to name the source that leaked him the Audrey Hale transgender mass shooter manifesto pages that he published. A memo also leaked last week from the FBI that shows the top leadership ordered the Audrey Hale manifesto suppressed and would not allow it to be released under FOIA requests, purposefully covering it up.

See how this works? Alex Jones faces billions in court orders for defaming the Sandy Hook parents. But liberals and pundits can defame October 7th Jews and their families all day long with no consequences. The FBI tried to cover up a transgender gunmans manifesto and now the courts will jail the journalist who published the leak. Tell me how many journalists got imprisoned for publishing the leaked Dobbs decision from SCOTUS?