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Feb 22 2024 11:35pm


I've been impressed by how fast the Chinese built huge bridges and buildings etc but... How is the quality.


I have a subscription to a channel showing lot of the nonsense construction projects but I can't find it right now... Youtube search function for so bad (for censorship reasons) after big tech bought it up.
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Feb 23 2024 05:40am
5000 years old civilization how dare you

https://www.youtube.com/c/serpentza/videos

Case closed :rofl:
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Feb 23 2024 06:13am
Lol, but to be fair US isn't doing great on housing either ROFL.


Houses sliding down hills in Rockies. Gas explosions or heating infrastructure fails. Florida condos collapsing. Iowa apartment buildings collapsing. Developers building in flood regions. California sky scraper lean. Government or other entities legal theft of houses using loop holes. Housing code in US allows sheathing with literal cardboard and other very sub par materials, like dressing up a turd. Many other countries frown on the stick framing approach using the 2x4 dimensional lumber that's not actually 2x4 inches. Many systems in a home are very simple, yet big man mandates licensed alcoholic professionals do the work in many circumstances even when inspections make it unnecessary.


None of the rant matters if you can't afford a home which is a lot of US

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Feb 23 2024 06:14am
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Feb 23 2024 10:43am
Quote (said_aouita @ Feb 23 2024 01:25am)
Lol. Exactly the same. Suuuuuuure it is.


You heard the man.

He's a Chinese exile who was loved by the West because he spoke out against the Chinese communist party, guess that's all over now huh

Lock him up :rolleyes:


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Quote (RedFromWinter @ 23 Feb 2024 05:13)
Lol, but to be fair US isn't doing great on housing either ROFL.


Houses sliding down hills in Rockies. Gas explosions or heating infrastructure fails. Florida condos collapsing. Iowa apartment buildings collapsing. Developers building in flood regions. California sky scraper lean. Government or other entities legal theft of houses using loop holes. Housing code in US allows sheathing with literal cardboard and other very sub par materials, like dressing up a turd. Many other countries frown on the stick framing approach using the 2x4 dimensional lumber that's not actually 2x4 inches. Many systems in a home are very simple, yet big man mandates licensed alcoholic professionals do the work in many circumstances even when inspections make it unnecessary.


None of the rant matters if you can't afford a home which is a lot of US


I've re-sided several houses that have that hardboard/pressboard siding shit. Most useless and annoying stuff ever. But to be fair, it's not truly cardboard.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 22 Feb 2024 14:06)
Time?


The reaction to time is maintenance and refurbishing. Taking California as an example, the most common reaction for piping systems (both oil and LNG, as well as water and sewage) is to simply close the pipeline. Claim it's a "hazard" and stop maintaining it.

Rather huge infrastructure projects that the greatest generation put together and put all the plans and funding in place to improve and expand had the funding looted by the boomers, and the boomers/GenX in charge today would rather simply shut down the aged infrastructure entirely, then cry for the federal government to fund "new things" entirely, effectively stealing from other states to make up for their own poor spending.

As to China, they've got some serious gabarge in some cases, but some pretty innovative and high quality architecture in others. The majority of the difference seems to be: Does the architecture serve the CCP and/or production of CCP endorsed goods, or does it serve literally anything else? If the answer is literally anything else, the quality drops rather sharply.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 24 2024 11:29am)
I've re-sided several houses that have that hardboard/pressboard siding shit. Most useless and annoying stuff ever. But to be fair, it's not truly cardboard.



The reaction to time is maintenance and refurbishing. Taking California as an example, the most common reaction for piping systems (both oil and LNG, as well as water and sewage) is to simply close the pipeline. Claim it's a "hazard" and stop maintaining it.

Rather huge infrastructure projects that the greatest generation put together and put all the plans and funding in place to improve and expand had the funding looted by the boomers, and the boomers/GenX in charge today would rather simply shut down the aged infrastructure entirely, then cry for the federal government to fund "new things" entirely, effectively stealing from other states to make up for their own poor spending.

As to China, they've got some serious gabarge in some cases, but some pretty innovative and high quality architecture in others. The majority of the difference seems to be: Does the architecture serve the CCP and/or production of CCP endorsed goods, or does it serve literally anything else? If the answer is literally anything else, the quality drops rather sharply.


At bold, valid point.

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 24 2024 05:29am)
I've re-sided several houses that have that hardboard/pressboard siding shit. Most useless and annoying stuff ever. But to be fair, it's not truly cardboard.


The reaction to time is maintenance and refurbishing. Taking California as an example, the most common reaction for piping systems (both oil and LNG, as well as water and sewage) is to simply close the pipeline. Claim it's a "hazard" and stop maintaining it.

Rather huge infrastructure projects that the greatest generation put together and put all the plans and funding in place to improve and expand had the funding looted by the boomers, and the boomers/GenX in charge today would rather simply shut down the aged infrastructure entirely, then cry for the federal government to fund "new things" entirely, effectively stealing from other states to make up for their own poor spending.

As to China, they've got some serious gabarge in some cases, but some pretty innovative and high quality architecture in others. The majority of the difference seems to be: Does the architecture serve the CCP and/or production of CCP endorsed goods, or does it serve literally anything else? If the answer is literally anything else, the quality drops rather sharply.


It's durable cardboard :) I see it on southern homes, doesn't last at all in moist climate. Also shingle... Nasty product get the metal roof with mechanical seams.


The infrastructure comments are interesting. I did a boat load of EE work decades ago and it was known then engineer head count was not enough to backfill boomer/greatest-gen positions. Meanwhile utilities and policy makers were pushing 'smart grid' technology on top of aging tech. While US is indecisive about modern infrastructure, many people developing nations have implemented very cost effective micro grids. We are seeing this in rural US now being setup for rural country folk to handle power cuts, or in energy restrictive states.

The greatest generation tried to warn us, train the masses, but not enough quality EE in the pool

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Quote (RedFromWinter @ 24 Feb 2024 06:11)
It's durable cardboard :) I see it on southern homes, doesn't last at all in moist climate. Also shingle... Nasty product get the metal roof with mechanical seams.


The infrastructure comments are interesting. I did a boat load of EE work decades ago and it was known then engineer head count was not enough to backfill boomer/greatest-gen positions. Meanwhile utilities and policy makers were pushing 'smart grid' technology on top of aging tech. While US is indecisive about modern infrastructure, many people developing nations have implemented very cost effective micro grids. We are seeing this in rural US now being setup for rural country folk to handle power cuts, or in energy restrictive states.

The greatest generation tried to warn us, train the masses, but not enough quality EE in the pool


Everyone wants to be a lawyer or influencer or pencil pusher. Infrastructure is heavy duty work, and requires heavy duty dedicated learning, training, and experience. Education systems would rather push pencil pusher and screen time jobs.

Hard to keep a nation functioning without the people being trained to maintain and improve it. Maybe we'll luck out and a dozen of the millions of foreign invaders who've wandered in will know what they're doing. :rolleyes:
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 24 2024 05:20am)
Everyone wants to be a lawyer or influencer or pencil pusher. Infrastructure is heavy duty work, and requires heavy duty dedicated learning, training, and experience. Education systems would rather push pencil pusher and screen time jobs.

Hard to keep a nation functioning without the people being trained to maintain and improve it. Maybe we'll luck out and a dozen of the millions of foreign invaders who've wandered in will know what they're doing. :rolleyes:




They nailed it with this episode
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Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 22 2024 02:17pm)
bro chinese been failing infrastructure projects for days this aint something new we dont need to infer they are gonna have a recession they already is in a recession fam


It's probably illegal to sell stocks there at this point rofl.

I don't think it is possible for a 1 party system to be honest about anything.
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