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Feb 6 2024 08:49pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 6 Feb 2024 20:41)
SBD is Canadian. He lives in the Arctic circle.


I only ask people because I myself live outside Chicago and the suburbs surrounding the city rarely "do" what the "sanctuary city" does.

I wasn't sure if someone was from a suburb outside NYC or in NYC itself that could comment.

I like an opinion from someone on the ground not people speculating.
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Feb 6 2024 09:27pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Feb 6 2024 07:49pm)
I only ask people because I myself live outside Chicago and the suburbs surrounding the city rarely "do" what the "sanctuary city" does.

I wasn't sure if someone was from a suburb outside NYC or in NYC itself that could comment.

I like an opinion from someone on the ground not people speculating.


Whos speculating? I'm just citing what the article itself says. If you're saying their calculations are speculation, well that's possible. They don't provide the details in that specific article they only say what their current rate of spend is and what the expected savings is by moving to this program over their current program. How they arrived at that obviously takes some speculation or estimates given its necessary for any projection like that.

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Feb 6 2024 09:34pm
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Whos speculating? I'm just citing what the article itself says. If you're saying their calculations are speculation, well that's possible. They don't provide the details in that specific article.


Sorry I thought I added "Not saying SBD is speculating" :bonk: Forgot to edit my bad bud

I don't trust the numbers reported out of major us cities. That's why I try and ask people from the area what's going on.

They say crime is down in Chicago every year but it's not. Just because the city doesn't want to lose tourism money and lies about crime statistics that's actually normal where I'm from believe it or not.

It's sort of like last week the mayor of Chicago said almost all migrants were now being held up in shelters/hotels/police department/airport but then if you drove downtown you would see HOARDES of people just walking around aimlessly(immigrants not homeless).

They lie any chance they get so if your thinking of coming to Chicago because you "googled Chicago's safety" and it said "crime's down year over year" don't believe that unless you want to risk your own life.
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Feb 6 2024 09:35pm
Quote (SBD @ 7 Feb 2024 03:33)
Its actually a cost savings over what they are currently doing if you read the article.


Goes to show how insane the status quo already is. Still an own goal, even if it saves some money on paper. First, because it's horrible optics and will rile up the domestic poor. Second, because this will be a gigantic additional pull factor which attracts even more irregular immigrants to NYC, thus increasing their financial burden in the long run.
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Feb 6 2024 09:40pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 6 2024 08:35pm)
Goes to show how insane the status quo already is. Still an own goal, even if it saves some money on paper. First, because it's horrible optics and will rile up the domestic poor. Second, because this will be a gigantic additional pull factor which attracts even more irregular immigrants to NYC, thus increasing their financial burden in the long run.


I don't disagree. Things appear to be in a sad state of affairs with the USA citizens in the low and lower middle class and frankly declining middle-class seeing little improvement their livability in major cities across the USA.
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Feb 6 2024 09:53pm
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I don't disagree. Things appear to be in a sad state of affairs with the USA citizens in the low and lower middle class and frankly declining middle-class seeing little improvement their livability in major cities across the USA.


It's always been pretty bad. We all know the gap between the rich and poor is astronomical.

and all this inflation/mortgage rate increases/energy cost hurt the poorest amongst us but a lot of this has to do with our country "going green" and literally gutting the industries that helped our country get where it got.

Blaming the politicians is foolish when they are bought and paid for. Any American who thinks someone in Washington DC has their best interest is a fool and that's a majority of the US population.

If you shut down our oil and natural gas production. Send absurd amounts of money to Ukraine/Israel. Allow millions of immigrants in as these conditions get worse. It's a recipe for disaster.

&&&& only now after were literally a "dead man walking" do people come out and say, "We need to do something now!".

It's too late. It's over.

America is like a car going over a guardrail and down into the raveen of a canyon and the people(Americans) are arguing about who should drive the car(Trump or Biden)

It doesn't matter were going to hit the bottom of the canyon sadly <_<

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Feb 6 2024 09:59pm
New residents are simply making the place like home. Starting to see the two perps on moped trend take off.
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Feb 10 2024 05:25pm
democrats decide poor black people need to make sacrifices so that they can shelter illegal immigrants

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/roxbury-melnea-cass-recreation-center-migrants-massachusetts/

ROXBURY - It's been a quick conversion for the Melnea Cass Recreational Center in Roxbury. In place are beds and sleeping bags, play spaces, bathrooms and other necessities and it's all to help migrant families arriving in large numbers in the state.

Governor Maura Healey began discussions of the idea of turning the complex into a temporary safe site shelter in the past week, saying she was moved by the recent plight of migrant families now camping out at Logan Airport with no place to go, and a state shelter system stretched to the limit.

"We're here today because we really don't have a choice," said Governor Healey after touring the site with Boston Mayor Michelle Wu and other city leaders.

"None of us should stand by with women, children, and families sleeping outside or in an airport who look like us," said State Representative Liz Miranda who represents the community on Beacon Hill.

But the plan has received mixed reviews in the Roxbury neighborhood since the recreational center is also a vital resource for youth and adult programs.


"We sympathize with them, we as people in a community we love, but sometimes we love so many in spite of our own selves," said resident and community activist Clifton Braithwaite.

Tony DaRocha with Boston United Track and Cross-Country coaches young athletes in a free weekly program at the complex. He doesn't know where his team will go with a meet set for Sunday. "We empathize with what's going on. But at the same time our kids are impacted negatively. Our program is one of the few stable times in their lives," said DaRocha.

"I've been going here for two years and it's a second home to me," said program participant Andy Suarez.

The decision to make it a temporary home until May 31 for migrant families is called humanitarian but also a difficult decision by some and Mayor Michelle Wu echoed that sentiment.

"There is pain and recognition this is not the first time the community has been asked to sacrifice. We will work with the state to make sure all options are on the table," said Wu.

The governor is pledging that all programs find a temporary home and funds will be provided for long awaited updates to the complex in the spring once the temporary shelter is closed. Seventy-five migrants were expected to arrive on Wednesday with more in the next couple of days.



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Feb 10 2024 05:38pm
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democrats decide poor black people need to make sacrifices so that they can shelter illegal immigrants

Trump be like:
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Feb 10 2024 08:39pm
we have ubi for refugees already in canada too.
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