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Jan 25 2024 10:10am
Quote (Landmine @ Jan 25 2024 10:07am)
So the party that actively calls for immigrants to come in is gonna be the one to meet in the middle? Lmfao icemage






“Article IV, § 4, which promises that the federal government “shall protect each [State] against invasion,” and Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which acknowledges “the States' sovereign interest in protecting their borders.”


The federal government is the only one not following the law.


you can be a simpleton and pretend that Biden and his administration are bleeding heart liberals on the far left, but anyone with a lukewarm IQ realized he's a moderate democrat near the middle who is politically hamstrung by the far left voters in his party.

trump faces similar issues with both far right loonies in the MTG/Boobert faction and never trumper moderate republicans in the Romneyesque branch.

this isn't typically difficult to understand for people who have thought about it. then again you called immigration an invasion, so. that law was written to prevent annexation, not immigration lmao.

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you can be a simpleton and pretend that Biden and his administration are bleeding heart liberals on the far left, but anyone with a lukewarm IQ realized he's a moderate democrat near the middle who is politically hamstrung by the far left voters in his party.

trump faces similar issues with both far right loonies in the MTG/Boobert faction and never trumper moderate republicans in the Romneyesque branch.

this isn't typically difficult to understand for people who have thought about it. then again you called immigration an invasion, so. that law was written to prevent annexation, not immigration lmao.




Okay, then. The immigrants crossing are not an unwelcome intrusion?



Joe Biden:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo


This post was edited by Landmine on Jan 25 2024 10:19am
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I think the feds will react aggressively. If they don’t then more will join Texas and Oklahoma. Don’t put anything past this administration.
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Okay, then. The immigrants crossing are not an unwelcome intrusion?



Joe Biden:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwLYMPLYbo


yes, of course they are. but immigration isn't always an intrusion, and an intrusion isn't always an invasion.

that law is pretty clear, if another sovereign nation or invading force attempts to change the US border by annexing land then the US govt will step in. same way that the US will step in to stop states from expanding into each other's territory.

"protecting the border" means the artificial line of US sovereignty, not it's effectiveness in stopping immigration. that's not outside of the US federal purview, its just not what that law is about. that's a whole set of different new laws, set far after the drafting of the constitution. because before those laws the US/Mexico border was an open crossing point for anyone to enter the US. during the spanish american war they Fed had to actually act on article 4. have you forgotten the Alamo?
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Quote (thesnipa @ 25 Jan 2024 15:13)
fuck around and find out. we'll see if yall really dem boyz once the tanks roll in.

It would be political suicide to let the tanks roll, just to ensure that the Southern border remains wide open.

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that border has been a leaking point for 30+ years, its just politicized now.

The numbers of border crossings have never been nearly as high as they currently are, though. And the stance by the Biden administration is not just " we won't do anything about it", it's "we will actively undermine any state efforts to do something about it".

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and that's both ways, biden is too soft for political reasons, texans being too hyper politicized for the opposite reason. if they met in the middle they might actually get something done, but they wont.

What would this compromise/meeting in the middle actually look like? Over 2 million illegals came over the past year, so the compromise is that going forward, only 1 million illegals are tolerated per year?



Legally speaking, the Biden administration is probably in the right here, but on the political and substantive side of this issue, they are the ones who are wrong.

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It would be political suicide to let the tanks roll, just to ensure that the Southern border remains wide open.


see topic title, OP asks if armed conflict will come. if it does, it wont be pretty for texas. i personally think those cowboys are too scared to do anything.

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The numbers of border crossings have never been nearly as high as they currently are though. And the stance by the Biden administration is not just " we won't do anything about it", it's "we will actively undermine any state efforts to do something about it".


"dont use razor wire" has somehow changed to "disband ICE". lmao, such hyperbole. ICE still exists, detention centers are full to the brim, and we capture record numbers of people crossing and contraband crossing the border.

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What would this compromise/meeting in the middle actually look like? Over 2 million illegals came over the past year, so the compromise is that going forward, only 1 million illegals are are tolerated per year?



Legally speaking, the Biden administration is probably in the right here, but on the political and substantive side of this issue, they are the ones who are wrong.


legislation signed into law by Biden that increases ICE funding but removes some practices people dont like such as razor wire. ICE needs funding, you dont get it by drawing lines in the sand. bipartisan legislation requires compromise.

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bussing them to NYC was pretty damn funny, let's be honest.
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see topic title, OP asks if armed conflict will come. if it does, it wont be pretty for texas. i personally think those cowboys are too scared to do anything.

My point is that no, armed conflict is not coming.... because the optics of sending tanks to force the border to remain wide open would be too disastrous for the federal government.



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"dont use razor wire" has somehow changed to "disband ICE". lmao, such hyperbole. ICE still exists, detention centers are full to the brim, and we capture record numbers of people crossing and contraband crossing the border.

Mayorkas is pardoning/releasing the vast majority of them into the country.


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legislation signed into law by Biden that increases ICE funding but removes some practices people dont like such as razor wire. ICE needs funding, you dont get it by drawing lines in the sand. bipartisan legislation requires compromise.

ICE funding only helps if the agents are actually turning folks around at the border, or detain and deport the bulk of those they encounter in the interior. Furthermore, it is on political leadership and its messaging that so many people are trying to get into the US to begin with. By asking for more ICE funding while not showing any intentions of changing said messaging, the Biden admin wants the taxpayer to pony up for the symptoms of the crisis of their own making.

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bussing them to NYC was pretty damn funny, let's be honest.


based af to be honest
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Jan 25 2024 11:48am
If the illegitimate federal government tries anything, it'll be the quickest way to end this degenerate and false regime

Fall of the Soviet Union was similar, government tries to send tanks in, the citizens don't care because it's illegitimate and citizens won't fire upon their own countrymen unless they're radicalized, and the military overwhelmingly supports Donald Trump

The Biden regime won't do anything, however what they will do is try to find excuses to not hold the 2024 federal election

This post was edited by El1te on Jan 25 2024 11:49am
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