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Jan 2 2024 02:04pm
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Who do you think is ending up in prison that you are now in favour of killing?


I’m not in favor of killing anybody minus what already constitutes the death penalty. Maybe violent rapists too.

I’m using y’all’s logic. So far from this topic I gather the way to solve homelessness is to kill the people who are most likely to become homeless. Does that not apply to other problems?

I guess I just don’t understand the logic of killing people to solve financial problems. Please explain it to me in more detail.
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Jan 2 2024 02:10pm
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When your answer is to simply kill them, then yes. We want that.


Maybe we can solve overpopulation in jails by killing them off too. At least they did something to earn it.


How many in foster care end up in jail that you now want to kill?
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Jan 2 2024 02:33pm
no one address topic..........

Dallas women TWERKING for abortions.


This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 2 2024 02:39pm
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>50% of homeless people in the USA grew up in foster care, less abortions = more homeless and more crime which is apparently what conservatives want


true, but homeless people have never and will never be an issue. that's far too wide of a net to cast. its the terminally homeless people we have to worry about.

the stat makes sense, at age 18 many foster kids are released from the system, and have no where to go. many find their way to shelters and thus contribute to homeless statistics. but that could be fixed rather quickly with some changes to the foster care system.

as compared to other types of homelessness, namely caused by substance abuse and mental health issues, which are far more difficult to combat.

similarly many "homeless people" are ex cons, or ex military. they leave one system and temporarily (or sometimes longer) have no where to go and are thus counted in homeless statistics. who is staying homeless is the issue we must narrow in on and fix.
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Jan 2 2024 03:06pm
The real question is how many lives were saved from it being overturned?

1.5 million is a great miracle. Nationwide I wonder how many more

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The real question is how many lives were saved from it being overturned?

1.5 million is a great miracle. Nationwide I wonder how many more


That is just Texas. I believe it was one in five children were aborted here a few years ago.

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no one address topic..........


You noticed that too huh.
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Jan 2 2024 08:33pm
as always, the leftie apocalypse scenarios never even remotely happen

with so many american lives saved you dont need all these illegals anymore ^_^

btw, these abortion numbers are just insane man and that was just texas

aside from that there is a simple solution, just dont smash raw, if you dont want kids
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Jan 2 2024 10:03pm
Thats the beauty of the world you don't have to guess over stuff liek this you can just look it up on google and see what the experts are saying

p.s They are all saying mortality rate has increased since the overturn of roe v wade

It seems like you literally expected dead bodies in the street to pile up and because that isnt happening you are trying some sort of pseudo intellectual "i told you so" which is mis guided and rather dumb to take such an approach.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/health/maternal-infant-death-abortion-access/index.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/majority-obgyns-overturning-roe-led-maternal-deaths-survey/story?id=100241112
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/3819376-pregnancy-related-deaths-more-likely-in-states-with-abortion-bans-research/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/abortion-restrictions-higher-maternal-infant-mortality-rcna61585

so you are just factually incorrect straight up

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Thats the beauty of the world you don't have to guess over stuff liek this you can just look it up on google and see what the experts are saying

p.s They are all saying mortality rate has increased since the overturn of roe v wade

It seems like you literally expected dead bodies in the street to pile up and because that isnt happening you are trying some sort of pseudo intellectual "i told you so" which is mis guided and rather dumb to take such an approach.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/health/maternal-infant-death-abortion-access/index.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/majority-obgyns-overturning-roe-led-maternal-deaths-survey/story?id=100241112
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/3819376-pregnancy-related-deaths-more-likely-in-states-with-abortion-bans-research/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/abortion-restrictions-higher-maternal-infant-mortality-rcna61585

so you are just factually incorrect straight up


So I mentioned exactly this in my OP. Obviously the extreme rare cases where abortion is necessary to save the mother’s life will end up in the mother dying. If you go back and find the topic I made about this last year I pulled up the only article I could find actually getting down to facts. And it was less than 20 women.

These are quotes from your articles, which if you went beyond the headline include word salad of absolutely zero substance.

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Results showed 64% of all OB-GYNs surveyed believe the ruling has worsened pregnancy mortality.


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Overall, death rates from any cause among women of reproductive age – 15 to 44 – were 34% higher in abortion-restriction states than in abortion-access states, according to the report.


The race bait article where the only numbers they gave were how natives were something like 4% more likely to have maternal problems than blacks was pretty asinine.


I’ve never seen you respond to me so I will pretend you aren’t being a dick head, despite how people who call others “pseudo intellectual” are pretty much 100% pseudo intellectual themselves. I’ve never claimed to be an intellectual, which is likely why those who do pretend to be can’t stand anything I say because I consistently expose them as tribalist idiots.


The entire point of my OP is that mortality has increased, there was always a 100% chance it would, but if you look at the numbers it is insanely minuscule. I never prophesied bodies littering the streets. That was your cnn abc nbc the hill etc..
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true, but homeless people have never and will never be an issue. that's far too wide of a net to cast. its the terminally homeless people we have to worry about.

the stat makes sense, at age 18 many foster kids are released from the system, and have no where to go. many find their way to shelters and thus contribute to homeless statistics. but that could be fixed rather quickly with some changes to the foster care system.

as compared to other types of homelessness, namely caused by substance abuse and mental health issues, which are far more difficult to combat.

similarly many "homeless people" are ex cons, or ex military. they leave one system and temporarily (or sometimes longer) have no where to go and are thus counted in homeless statistics. who is staying homeless is the issue we must narrow in on and fix.


They've never been an issue? according to whom? it's a top 5 problem that conservatives bitch about, for sure

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as compared to other types of homelessness, namely caused by substance abuse and mental health issues, which are far more difficult to combat.


who do you think uses drugs and has mental health issues? maybe kids that grow up in abusive foster homes?
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