Industrial revolution, past racism and segregation. But we all know that was mostly democratic enabled, right?

So the current black culture is due to racism and segregation?

Ethnicity*
Right, got it.

Yes, and no. Because, there has been multiple generations that have grown up since these things have ended. Racism itself hasn't ended throughout the world, but it is vastly improved in the US. It might be hard for you to imagine this as you don't live in Detroit like I do, or work in Pontiac, etc. Last warehouse I worked in was like 85% black workers. To me, they are just another person. Each person defined by their life.

But, we cannot deny that in predominately black neighborhoods there is such a thing as gangs. And they feel enabled and entitled due to the left wing news network and politicians telling them they are so. Nobody deserves more than another person, no matter what past events might have occurred that didn't recently happen in the current generation. Especially if we are considering the topic of reparations. Reparations for what? That has long been solved through the civil war, civil right movements, and the abolishment of segregation. Then, the several generations of children growing up between then and now.

The next step is to take a look inward as a nation, because it isn't just black people that prop up the shitty ass rap music that talks about gang violence, glorifying sex at a young age, and talks about money being predominate not matter the costs.

You are simply trying to simplify a matter and proving to me that you aren't willing to think dynamically.

Do you think 59 years is adequate for the effects to go away? Do you think that passing civil rights eliminated all of the attempts to disadvantage people based on race?

So, I'm curious. No. I do not think so, but it has also created other rifts. A populations policies and culture should suit its population diversity and statistics. You are asking a lot of questions without giving any perspective or insight of your own, and it honestly just suits your side. Not willing to answer anything because you are disillusioned.

I'm just trying to figure out where you stand on this. Believe it or not I ask a lot of people these exact questions in this exact order, and by now they've made some statement about how "blacks are just like that".

I live in a town where we didn't get rid of segregation until the mid 70's, and even after we did they were still unofficially enforced. My neighbor gave birth in the basement of a hospital becuase blacks weren't allowed on the main floors. It's really sad how recent these things were.

The places where smaller populations are, and especially if they lean heavily towards one side of the population, changes will always be slower. I can't disagree that it is sad that those things happened, however, I don't think we should look at the overall norms and culture by such a scope. For example, most of the problems in this country are happening in heavily diverse areas that are more modern and have a lot of young-think generation. It is also mostly what we see on the news, etc.

There is a whole shitton of this stuff that goes on without us seeing it on the news. I might be exaggerating, but I honestly think the news just scrapes the surface at 5-10% of incidents, if even that.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Dec 30 2023 02:45pm

black privilege........

Yes, the news just scrapes the things that will make headlines. That's just how a media with a profit motive works. Get clicks, get money.

Obviously places with more people will have more incidents. That's just numbers. Similarly, reporting will be better where there are more people. I grew up way way out in the country. There weren't any police officers for 15 miles most days. The overwhelming majority of rural crime goes unreported. Even if you could get accurate numbers there aren't even ways to organize it the way there is in the cities.

This happens basically everywhere. For instance, during Covid there were several counties back where I grew up that reported 0 Covid deaths. Not because they actually had zero. They had A LOT. Nobody in churches wore masks or did any kind of distancing and those old people dropped like flies. It was because the commissioner made a political decision to not report Covid numbers.