Quote (El1te @ Nov 16 2023 12:17pm)
Ukraine losing territory isn't winning
If they get to keep the western 3/4 it's a lesser defeat than total conquest, but still a defeat
75% of something is better than 100% of nothing. when russia invaded everyone bet on them being toppled.
Quote (SBD @ Nov 16 2023 12:19pm)
It's been a total disaster for Russia, gone on far longer than intended, horrible from a geopolitical standpoint, horrible from an economic standpoint. Regardless if you get people saying, look how much the EU has suffered from energy issues, you still caused a shift into finding alternative energy, that obviously isn't happening overnight but Russian is still forcing things to move quicker than any protesting or bullshit policy, or government commitments to alternative energy since its now being done out of actual necessity. You want countries to be entirely dependent on you, not trying to rapidly solve how not to be.
and now countries are starting to boycott Teslas. lol what a mess.