Some people have morals and won't budge an inch. Democrats sell out for miles and miles. Republicans do the same thing just on different issues.

It's one thing to support abortion when the woman was sexually assaulted and it's another when the average men/woman have unprotected sex and use it as a form of birth control/ contraception



Yea you would think after this decades long debate both parties would explain what happens to an aborted fetus or late term abortion. Most people remember when the democrat Virginia governor defended "born-alive" abortions.

"The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and family desired."



This is the exact reason I only vote locally. Leave the circus for people who actually think one of the "circus freaks" is going to turn this country around. A two-party system is flawed at every corner. On election day I'm more likely to go to Baskin Robins for their 31 flavors of ice cream then go to the voting booth and vote "red or blue". Every 4 years us dumbass Americans get to think our "choice" matters. It doesn't. In the state of Illinois(always blue state never will be red) there is no point to go vote. Chicago alone will always give Democrats those tallies. When you look at the voting pattern in Illinois the entire state is RED except Chicago and a little blue blotch near St. Louis.

What's the deal with the Kennedy independent candidacy. Will it take voters away from Dems? Or Republican? Or both? Or none?

I think Joe Biden has done an ok job, not spectacular. The infrastructure investment will be a generation before we know if it was great or not.
A few of his speeches you could see his intentions were good and perhaps a 20 years younger man would be fairly charismatic.
The "leader of the free world" speech in Poland, the recent live address to the American audience. There have been many gaffes and overall his mental faculties are fading, like any elderly citizen.

A role like POTUS while extremely powerful and with veto power, is largely symbolic and statesmen like. Appearances and articulation are everything.

A younger, fitter democratic candidate would be the best outcome imo.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 8 2023 09:50am

if they want to continue to lose elections on that's on them. if you look at who gets abortions and when, you can find common ground and put a limit at X weeks. I don't care about this issue, I care far more about republicans winning elections

This post was edited by majorblood on Nov 8 2023 09:54am

Are the Republicans who are dumb enough to not make that change even deserving of a position in American politics? Are they blind to the change in the demographics?

You ever notice how many politicians say they are "Christian" and aren't Christian? Like you know that's all to capture votes.

What Republican who truly believes abortion is an abomination is willing to say, "Some abortions are ok". Everyone has to look in the mirror at some point no?

Republicans districts have always pulled shit like this in 2020 election there was an entire district in mississippi of dems or w/e that they just 'forgot' to mail out the votes.

Republicans actually try to rig the election in a microcasm scale all over the fucking country

Texas literally sued Pennsylvania (???) in 2020 because Texas didn't believe PEnnsylvania was correct in their vote counting (?????????????)

there is so much Republicans do to hold onto power its so pathetic and stupid and severely ironic

Texas v Pennsylvania was about Pennsylvania breaking their own election laws. Which is correct, they did.

So the fact that there is internal debate within the Republican Party means the voters should just give up and allow the other side to have all of the power?

Correct me if I am wrong but the way this is supposed to work is we elect people who share our values to fight over all this bullshit for us and figure it out. This prevents us from arguing with each other about the shit our representatives are supposed to be doing for us. We go on with our lives.

The problem is that we elect lying pieces of shit to represent us, and they generally do not argue over things that we would like them to, leaving us to fight amongst ourselves as citizens while our representatives laugh it up all the way to the bank.


I will stand by the Matt gaetz of the world all day every day until I am dead. That is literally the entire point of congress.

thump that bible somewhere else, cult boy

No. texas argued that changing election laws (not breaking them) without legislative procedure to do so, broke the US constitution. and the SCOTUS decided (correctly) that the only constitutional issue was the lack of standing one state has to file a suit against another state, because without an interstate contention Texas has no business suing Penn.

the flip side of this would be precedent by the US federal govt stating that no individual state is allowed to change it's own state election procedures, large or small, without legislative action to do so. this would make the process far too rigid for issues that arise in the short term. also the Federal govt has no business telling states how to conduct their own elections, within reason. and given differences in the state constitutions this would be federal over-reach to standardize state election practices. it was an objective loss for state's rights, ironic it came from republicans.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 8 2023 11:42am