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Oct 5 2023 01:45pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 12:40pm)
Is it legal to shoot people who have ambiguous and uncharged sexual assault allegations from 20 years ago?


is being shot equivalent to being deplatformed? lol
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Oct 5 2023 01:48pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 5 2023 02:41pm)
Cool. What's your solution?


Government intervention to break up monopolies.
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Oct 5 2023 01:54pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuxINiw2smI


Jury actually got it right.
Bravo.


This "youtuber" is a young idiot but not only... And is 100% responsible of what happened. GOD delivered him a message: "You were close, bitch"
=> Watch the way he's completely ignoring this person asking him to stop, it's really like... A complete lack of empathy and respect. Add guns in this degeneracy and you win the jackpot.
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Oct 5 2023 01:55pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 02:48pm)
Government intervention to break up monopolies.


In what way are these companies monopolies?

Twitter, Facebook, Tiktok, Reddit, and Instagram all directly compete with each other in the same space for attention and advertisers.

YouTube barely makes a profit and has major competition in TikTok and Twitch and has minor competition in Dailymotion, Vimeo, etc. etc.


So if you want to break up these by calling them a monopoly, you're going to have to pretty drastically rewrite what constitutes a monopoly.

So how would you define monopoly in the law in order to make that change?

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 5 2023 01:55pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 02:48pm)
Government intervention to break up monopolies.


how does that even work today in the context of Youtube? what does big gubment do? for it's sale? are we going to pretend that it's video market share is unbreakable only because Google owns it?

part of the reason youtube outpaced its competitors was due to censorship, not in spite of it. people got tired of stumbling on ISIS beheading videos on liveleak, and record companies were happy to champion the website that would remove nonsanctioned uploads of music videos.
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Oct 5 2023 01:57pm
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how does that even work today in the context of Youtube? what does big gubment do? for it's sale? are we going to pretend that it's video market share is unbreakable only because Google owns it?

part of the reason youtube outpaced its competitors was due to censorship, not in spite of it. people got tired of stumbling on ISIS beheading videos on liveleak, and record companies were happy to champion the website that would remove nonsanctioned uploads of music videos.


The only way Google is a monopoly is on its advertising platform. They really do have a stranglehold on ad revenue and distribution and it touches a TON of platforms.

but video hosting is nowhere near a monopoly.
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Oct 5 2023 01:59pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 5 2023 02:57pm)
The only way Google is a monopoly is on its advertising platform. They really do have a stranglehold on ad revenue and distribution and it touches a TON of platforms.

but video hosting is nowhere near a monopoly.


right, and even if we call Youtube a monopoly what action from the govt solves that "problem"? sell it? break it up? fine them for their success?
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Oct 5 2023 02:01pm
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right, and even if we call Youtube a monopoly what action from the govt solves that "problem"? sell it? break it up? fine them for their success?


The thing is if you define these social media platforms as monopolies you have to concede that literally every industry is monopolized. Social media isn't even the most consolidated. Something like 4 producers do 80% of all meat distribution in the USA. You would have to go on a spree of trust busting the likes of which has never been seen.


Which, for the record, I would be absolutely okay with.
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Oct 5 2023 02:02pm
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In what way are these companies monopolies?
Twitter, Facebook, Tiktok, Reddit, and Instagram all directly compete with each other in the same space for attention and advertisers.
YouTube barely makes a profit and has major competition in TikTok and Twitch and has minor competition in Dailymotion, Vimeo, etc. etc.
So if you want to break up these by calling them a monopoly, you're going to have to pretty drastically rewrite what constitutes a monopoly.
So how would you define monopoly in the law in order to make that change?


Youtube controls something like 97% of its market. A handful of social media companies control virtually 100% of their public forum at large.
Its pretty easy to define what is a monopoly by looking at cases like this guy, who monetize their content: Something that is not financially viable on anything but a small handful of monopolies. If someone is arbitrarily banned from youtube, where are they going to go stream? Do you realize how absurdly overwhelming the monopoly youtube has right now is? Twitch doesn't even register as a tiny fraction of a percentage by comparison.

These tech companies are obvious and undeniable monopolies, and its incumbent on the government to break them up to ensure competition, fair business practices and stoke innovation.
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Oct 5 2023 02:06pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 03:02pm)
Youtube controls something like 97% of its market.


What market specifically?

I can tell you outright YouTube does not have 97% of video streaming by any metric so I'm genuinely unsure of what you mean by this.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 5 2023 02:07pm
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