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Sep 14 2023 01:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 14 2023 04:14pm)
This just in: a hostile foreign invasion toppling a government results in the loss of the benefits of government service and protection to the people of that country, including the maintenance and replacement of critical infrastructure.
Not to mention zoning and regulation to keep people from building in floodplains in the first place.

If Alice operates the anti-bear-attack device that keeps wild bears from mauling Bob to death, and Charlie comes along and shoots Alice to death, then who's fault is it when a bear comes along and mauls Bob to death? The bear's?


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Sep 14 2023 01:34pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 14 2023 08:14pm)
This just in: a hostile foreign invasion toppling a government results in the loss of the benefits of government service and protection to the people of that country, including the maintenance and replacement of critical infrastructure.
Not to mention zoning and regulation to keep people from building in floodplains in the first place.

If Alice operates the anti-bear-attack device that keeps wild bears from mauling Bob to death, and Charlie comes along and shoots Alice to death, then who's fault is it when a bear comes along and mauls Bob to death? The bear's?


Had Obama gone into Syria and removed Assad, would the excess deaths caused poor building code in Syria after the earthquake also be the US' fault?


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Sep 14 2023 01:37pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 14 2023 04:34pm)
Had Obama gone into Syria and removed Assad, would the excess deaths caused poor building code in Syria after the earthquake also be the US' fault?


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Sep 14 2023 01:41pm
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Had Obama gone into Syria and removed Assad, would the excess deaths caused poor building code in Syria after the earthquake also be the US' fault?


Here is an article I found for you at the Modern War Institute website of West Point academy that defines what Obama did in Syria through this succinct article. A premier US institution teaching future NATO leaders

https://mwi.westpoint.edu/after-a-decade-of-incoherent-strategy-in-syria-a-way-forward/

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The single greatest blunder the United States made in Syria was to support armed Islamist opposition groups, in partnership with Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. This policy effectively began in 2012, became increasingly reckless over the course of 2013, and was finally axed in 2017.The CIA’s vetting of rebel groups was supposed to prevent weapons from falling into the hands of radicals. Instead, most of the arms Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia smuggled into Syria went to armed groups with links to the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafi-jihadist networks. Rather than pave the way for a political transition, such policies only fueled a destructive civil war that accelerated the emergence of jihadist armed groups.

The epitome of all that went wrong with US policy in Syria was Timber Sycamore—a billion-dollar CIA program to arm and train Syrian rebels fighting the forces of Bashar al-Assad. Timber Sycamore ultimately failed to unseat Assad, helped turn Syria into a proxy war between the United States and Russia, and caused untold misery to the Syrian people. A three-year study funded by the European Union and the German government later established that efforts by the United States and its allies to arm Syrian rebels “significantly augmented the quantity and quality of weapons” of the Islamic State.


This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 14 2023 01:46pm
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Sep 14 2023 01:48pm
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Here is how West Point academy defines what Obama did in Syria through this succinct article. A premier US institution teaching future NATO leaders

https://mwi.westpoint.edu/after-a-decade-of-incoherent-strategy-in-syria-a-way-forward/


Absolutely. Yet Assad remained.
Just wondering whether if he had been deposed, if the US would be blamed for poor building code causing excess deaths in the Turkish Syrian earthquakes.
Or whether that poor building existed under Assad's regime anyway.

Interested to see to what extent the blame of natural disasters falls onto the western hegemony.
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Sep 14 2023 01:55pm
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Absolutely. Yet Assad remained.
Just wondering whether if he had been deposed, if the US would be blamed for poor building code causing excess deaths in the Turkish Syrian earthquakes.
Or whether that poor building existed under Assad's regime anyway.

Interested to see to what extent the blame of natural disasters falls onto the western hegemony.


Dam that was there since the 1970s and was literally built to protect against flooding (that happened there eg in 1986), but was not maintained because there was no government anymore is something else.

Wouldn’t you agree?
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Sep 14 2023 02:18pm
Quote (Malopox @ Sep 14 2023 08:55pm)
Dam that was there since the 1970s and was literally built to protect against flooding (that happened there eg in 1986), but was not maintained because there was no government anymore is something else.

Wouldn’t you agree?


I think its far more complicated than what your framing. With many more mitigating factors.
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Sep 14 2023 02:27pm
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Sep 14 2023 02:29pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 14 2023 03:01pm)
Imagine the HACKS celebtrating Gadaffi regime while accusing US/EU to cast flood spells...


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Sep 14 2023 02:30pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Sep 14 2023 03:34pm)
would the excess deaths caused poor building code in Syria after the earthquake also be the US' fault?


Possibly.

https://icecube.wisc.edu/science/icecube/



This post was edited by said_aouita on Sep 14 2023 02:37pm
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