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#11
Sep 9 2023 07:37am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 9 2023 09:33am)
One of my biggest gripes with Biden presidency is it's such a brazen spit in the face of how most think this country runs. Most of us believe that voting for a president you will get that person leading the country, with Biden it's so blatantly obvious that he's absolutely not. It's essentially a small group of career politicians and bureaucrats that make all of the decisions, while Biden is rolled out at times to make an appearance with a bunch of curated teleprompters and secret service to steer him.

Unless he is able to step on a stage or a podcast and debate and engage for hours, proving to the American people he's all there and not just a shell, it's irresponsible for anyone to vote for him.


was there actually people who didn't think this would happen?
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#12
Sep 9 2023 08:17am
Biden has a crushing experience. I would bet that even if he was almost senile he would know what to do or which kind of people to put in charge.
I'm not sure he's the kind of silly orange president that would nominate loyal incompetent people on foreign team. Doing this is almost treason.
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#13
Sep 9 2023 09:09am
Joe Biden's qualities:
he's not trump

When this is your standard, it's No wonder your idiots are in this predicament
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#14
Sep 9 2023 09:27am
Presidential candidates are too old in general.
Trump and Biden particularly.

This will never happen but I think the most effective outcome for voters would be Biden should stepping aside for another democratic candidate.

Average age of president is 55.
Biden is 80
Trump is 77

These dudes should be chillin the fuck out already!
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#15
Sep 9 2023 09:48am
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It is a play on the "adults in the room" schtick we heard in 2020.

For all of that we got a senile commander in chief, a white house run through advisors, the rampant weaponization of the rule of law, a cartel run border, spiking crime epidemic, trillions in wasted and hundreds of billions in attempted wasted spending, toxic inflation and gaslighting about the same, a massive state censorship apparatus, and an administration genuinely obsessed with Orwellian changes to our language, culture and law. Extra points for treating parents as domestic terrorists.

If Trump won't get us into a nuclear war, and I think we all agree that that's far more likely under Biden, what's about the worst that could happen?


That really wasn't the argument. Bill Maher argued that Joe Biden is flawed, but Trump is stupid, crazy, and a criminal, which I don't think reasonable people would disagree with. Biden is bad within normal parameters... Trump is historically bad.

Trump was the guy who traded schoolyard insults with the head of a nuclear power. His administration debated a "bloody nose" strike on the same nation. To say "we can all agree nuclear war is more likely under Biden" is an idiotic statement, because obviously we won't agree on that. Trump is a reckless leader, Biden is much more stable and more consistent with traditional American foreign policy.

And if the implication is that Biden's support of Ukraine is risking nuclear war, I would make a Reaganesque argument of peace through strength.

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Sep 9 2023 10:14am
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 9 2023 11:48am)
That really wasn't the argument. Bill Maher argued that Joe Biden is flawed, but Trump is stupid, crazy, and a criminal, which I don't think reasonable people would disagree with. Biden is bad within normal parameters... Trump is historically bad.

Trump was the guy who traded schoolyard insults with the head of a nuclear power. His administration debated a "bloody nose" strike on the same nation. To say "we can all agree nuclear war is more likely under Biden" is an idiotic statement, because obviously we won't agree on that. Trump is a reckless leader, Biden is much more stable and more consistent with traditional American foreign policy.

And if the implication is that Biden's support of Ukraine is risking nuclear war, I would make a Reaganesque argument of peace through strength.


"Traditional" in the Iraq war sense? George W brought us ruin in the ME, Obama torched Libya, set a bunch of red lines in Syria, handed Iraq to the Iranians and oversaw the beginnings of what would become the Russo-Ukrainian war. Biden has alienated the Arabs and pushed every authoritarian state towards China's outstretched arms. Trump sitting down with Kim and making peace between the Sauds and Israel looks great by comparison.
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#17
Sep 9 2023 04:17pm
Russia invades Chechnya during Bill Clinton's presidency with impunity.
Russia invades Georgia during GWB's presidency with impunity.
Russia invades Crimea and the Donbass during Obama's presidency, with relative impunity.
Russia doesn't invade anything during Trump's presidency.
Russia invades the rest of Ukraine because they thought they could get away with it.

The US invade Iraq during GHWB's presidency.
The US invade Yugoslavia during Clinton's presidency.
The US invade Afghanistan and Iraq (again) during GWB's presidency.
The US invade Libya during Obama's presidency, plus mess around in Syria, Iran and Ukraine.
The US don't invade anyone during Trump's presidency.



The conclusion by establishment shills: "it's Trump who's weak on Russia, it's Trump who's a reckless leader!!1"

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 9 2023 04:26pm
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Sep 9 2023 04:23pm
Quote (IceMage @ 9 Sep 2023 17:48)
That really wasn't the argument. Bill Maher argued that Joe Biden is flawed, but Trump is stupid, crazy, and a criminal, which I don't think reasonable people would disagree with. Biden is bad within normal parameters... Trump is historically bad.

Trump was the guy who traded schoolyard insults with the head of a nuclear power. His administration debated a "bloody nose" strike on the same nation. To say "we can all agree nuclear war is more likely under Biden" is an idiotic statement, because obviously we won't agree on that. Trump is a reckless leader, Biden is much more stable and more consistent with traditional American foreign policy.

And if the implication is that Biden's support of Ukraine is risking nuclear war, I would make a Reaganesque argument of peace through strength.


Biden the person might be superior to Trump the person, but he can still make for the worse president if his policies are inferior to Trump's to a sufficient degree. So far, the Biden presidency has been an unmitigated disaster. What's even worse is that neither Biden nor the DNC operatives who are actually running the administration are showing any signs of correcting course.

I, for my part, do NOT want Trump to become president again - but if I had to choose, I'd easily prefer a 2nd Trump term to a 2nd Biden term.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 9 2023 04:23pm
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Sep 9 2023 04:30pm


Sums it up


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#20
Sep 9 2023 05:08pm
Biden is a senile old man, but whoever the gop chooses will be a deranged lying criminal.
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