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Aug 18 2023 12:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Aug 2023 19:32)
pence has the exact appeal in 2024 that Biden had in 2020. seemingly safe white older man who is a "return to normalcy".

he wont clear the primary, so it doesnt matter, but he'd 100% get votes.


No fucking way. The hardcore MAGAs view him as a traitor who stabbed Trump in the back and is responsible for him being ""cheated"" out of his ""rightful"" 2nd term.
Right-wing populists and left-wing progressives also see him as an establishment lapdog and a donor class puppet in cahoots with the Kochs.
Furthermore, his strong affiliation with the religious right and his heartfelt hardline positions on abortion make him an easy target in a post-Roe world.

I literally can't think of a worse general election candidate for the GOP than Pence. Trump will at the very least get 44-45% of the popular vote and help his party win some key senate races in red states.
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Aug 18 2023 12:39pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 18 2023 01:28pm)
No fucking way. The hardcore MAGAs view him as a traitor who stabbed Trump in the back and is responsible for him being ""cheated"" out of his ""rightful"" 2nd term.
Right-wing populists and left-wing progressives also see him as an establishment lapdog and a donor class puppet in cahoots with the Kochs.
Furthermore, his strong affiliation with the religious right and his heartfelt hardline positions on abortion make him an easy target in a post-Roe world.

I literally can't think of a worse general election candidate for the GOP than Pence. Trump will at the very least get 44-45% of the popular vote and help his party win some key senate races in red states.


sure, but im not saying "pence will do well in the primary". i'm saying "if it's biden vs pence in general pence will still get votes".

other than MAGA extreme right voters who will write in trump or sit out 2024, in that hypothetical, Pence still gets voted for heavily. Mitt Romney got 47% of the popular vote, but lost 332-206.

even so i expect Pence will get something like 5-10% of the votes in a primary. not terrible for a 3 man field where he's terribly outclassed.
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Aug 18 2023 01:07pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Aug 2023 20:39)
sure, but im not saying "pence will do well in the primary". i'm saying "if it's biden vs pence in general pence will still get votes".

other than MAGA extreme right voters who will write in trump or sit out 2024, in that hypothetical, Pence still gets voted for heavily. Mitt Romney got 47% of the popular vote, but lost 332-206.

even so i expect Pence will get something like 5-10% of the votes in a primary. not terrible for a 3 man field where he's terribly outclassed.


Yeah, I didnt consider the primaries either, starting in 5 months, not sure if it can change alot from now (maybe?) but I think many europeans are ignoring how strong religion is in U.S.
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Aug 18 2023 01:08pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Aug 18 2023 11:36am)
bro nobody watches tucker carlson like wtf

"the propagandist I WATCH torched him so OBVIOUSLY all of his life choices revolve around the twitter dude I watch sometimes"

wake the fuck up



It hand picked liek the 5 counties in all of the US that support Pence. One from Ohio, Ohio is staunchly republican so Pence losing to a dem is bad news fam

like are you sure the data you are looking at isnt cherry picked?


So out of touch you are.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_lD_biUbmaQ

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Aug 18 2023 01:19pm
Quote (Landmine @ 18 Aug 2023 21:08)


Nah, it's a very dishonest move from Carlson and Pence is not defending himself (which is the only thing that is really going against him in this video, i must admit)
U.S has ALOT of tanks and could give easily hundreds of them to Ukraine to accelerate its victory, by logics it's right to be "distressed" by this fact.
These tanks are rotting in giant warehouses, so it cost nothing to send them to Ukraine. This is typical populist bullshit vs logic.

People who are "out of touch" are those who continue to follow this silly former showstar
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Aug 18 2023 01:43pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 18 2023 01:19pm)
Nah, it's a very dishonest move from Carlson and Pence is not defending himself (which is the only thing that is really going against him in this video, i must admit)
U.S has ALOT of tanks and could give easily hundreds of them to Ukraine to accelerate its victory, by logics it's right to be "distressed" by this fact.
These tanks are rotting in giant warehouses, so it cost nothing to send them to Ukraine. This is typical populist bullshit vs logic.

People who are "out of touch" are those who continue to follow this silly former showstar


The popularity of the Ukraine war is falling in America and will continue to fall. It’s not a winning talking point.
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Aug 18 2023 01:50pm
Quote (Landmine @ 18 Aug 2023 21:43)
The popularity of the Ukraine war is falling in America and will continue to fall. It’s not a winning talking point.


Doesn't change a Iota of what i said and most americans support US arming Ukraine anyway.
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Aug 18 2023 01:53pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 18 2023 01:50pm)
Doesn't change a Iota of what i said and most americans support US arming Ukraine anyway.


I guess we’ll see where that support ends up next year.
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Aug 18 2023 10:30pm
pence still has zero votes.
ya ignorant bout everything

pence puts on the WEF cuck mask sells out then receives bribe, elbow bumps aunt hairdo nancy. best part of it all is how the left dumps all over him
Mike Pence received a mystery coin right after he certified the contentious 2020 election...
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Aug 18 2023 10:57pm
Pence is unelectable.
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