Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 12 2023 09:38pm)

Hunter Biden's text messages between him and his family repeatedly complained that Joe was taking half his income, and documents showing the breakdown of funds flowing from the oligarchs to the Bidens show that half of the funds for Hunter Biden were held for Joe. As well as other family members like James Biden, Hallie Biden, friends Devon Archer and Rob Walker and James Gilliar on the take. Nine total family/friends outside of Joe Biden, all who received direct deposits. Bank records produced to the house investigation have totaled over $20 million flowing from Russian, Ukrainian, Chinese, Romania and Kazakh oligarchs to the bank accounts of Hunter Biden, James Biden & Devon Archer, the same oligarchs who repeatedly met with, were put on calls with, and dined with Joe Biden despite him saying he had never met them.

Notably these do not include direct payments to Joe Biden's bank accounts. He was never paid directly as far as anyone can tell. The FBI informant from inside the foreign operations claimed that Joe Biden was paid $5 million (and another $5 million for Hunter, by burisma oligarch Zlochevsky) through a system of shell accounts and fake companies so complex the feds could spend a decade trying to unravel them, and as of yet I've seen no proof of that. But his reported income did suddenly surge by over $5 million in the opaque reporting of his book sales.

In general most of the people paying millions to the Bidens were overtly corrupt oligarchs or intelligensia, known for their bribery rings and in a few cases already / subsequently convicted of bribery offenses, imprisoned and/or mysteriously disappeared by the Chinese government. There was no pretense of legitimate business transactions, and no imaginable world in which someone could say with a straight face they'd spend millions hiring a drugged up dropout crackhead with zero business skills and who doesn't even speak their language. And those involved all talked about how Joe Biden was getting a cut (usually 50%, sometimes 10%)

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 12 Aug 2023 22:59)

Interesting. Well not really. And just throwing this out there,
"Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war". Many individuals have asserted that there were profit motives for the Bush-Cheney administration to invade Iraq in 2003."

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Aug 12 2023 03:59pm)

Interesting. Well not really. And just throwing this out there,
"Halliburton gained $39.5 billion in "federal contracts related to the Iraq war". Many individuals have asserted that there were profit motives for the Bush-Cheney administration to invade Iraq in 2003."

Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 12 2023 04:13pm)

$2 Billiont to Jared Kushner after Trump made ties with Saudis seems ... well 100 times worse than anything hunter biden could have done...

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 12 2023 10:17pm)

And yet its worth making note of the difference between money changing hands for corporations and whole business sectors in a relationship with US policy, and personal profiteering and bribery. No doubt there was some of the latter during the Iraq War, but in general the takeaway is that the military industrial complex profiteered as a whole, not politicians being bribed into it. George Bush and Dick Cheney weren't bribed to invade Iraq, Haliburton funds weren't just lining his pockets, at least not his alone. We can bemoan big money interests leading our government around, but that's just an inevitable fact of the marriage of economics and politics.

The pseudocorporations involved in the Hunter Biden saga were just shell accounts distributing money to their bank accounts. There's no such thing as Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, its just exists on paper for money to flow to Hunter Biden, Chris Heinz (Kerry's wife's son) and Devon Archer to receive payouts from foreign sources. Foreign oligarchs sent money to politicians and their families as a quid pro quo for geopolitical favors. Just plain, naked bribery

Quote (Goomshill @ 12 Aug 2023 23:17)

And yet its worth making note of the difference between money changing hands for corporations and whole business sectors in a relationship with US policy, and personal profiteering and bribery. No doubt there was some of the latter during the Iraq War, but in general the takeaway is that the military industrial complex profiteered as a whole, not politicians being bribed into it. George Bush and Dick Cheney weren't bribed to invade Iraq, Haliburton funds weren't just lining his pockets, at least not his alone. We can bemoan big money interests leading our government around, but that's just an inevitable fact of the marriage of economics and politics.

The pseudocorporations involved in the Hunter Biden saga were just shell accounts distributing money to their bank accounts. There's no such thing as Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, its just exists on paper for money to flow to Hunter Biden, Chris Heinz (Kerry's wife's son) and Devon Archer to receive payouts from foreign sources. Foreign oligarchs sent money to politicians and their families as a quid pro quo for geopolitical favors. Just plain, naked bribery



And worth making note of that being the exact opposite kind of exchange: A public government-led investment program, serving our legitimate foreign policy interests. Jared Kushner did not receive $2 billion, the Israelis and Saudis founded a joint investment fund for fostering Israeli-Saudi business ties, with Jared Kushner managing it. The only complaint there about politics was Kushner's firm being given control with less strict oversight and management cuts than the Saudis would normally use in foreign investments. They didn't send $2 billion to line Jared Kushner's pocket, they sent $2 billion to a fund subject to public scrutiny and accounting, to invest in startups and corporations that would tie Israel and the KSA, which was exactly what we wanted as a foreign policy objective.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 12 2023 04:29pm)

I would like to get 2 billions funds to administrate... Definitely a bribery, it's so blatant... They all (trump circle) made like what ? Hundreds millions ? It's crazy dude. So weird there's no investigation... Worrying.

Quote (Goomshill @ 12 Aug 2023 23:46)

If you negotiate a peace and cooperation deal formalizing a relationship between two major countries with historical bitter animosity towards each other, you too can receive management of a fund set up as part of the deal to invest in those economic ties. Jared Kushner wasn't being paid secretly in the dark by corrupt oligarchs in order to quash a criminal investigation, he went out and negotiated for peace in the mideast. Even nepotism doesn't make for a real complaint when the guy actually put in the legwork to end a longrunning conflict.

If Barron Trump becomes a 6'7" scientist and cures cancer, you'll be howling when he gets put in charge of a fund to manufacture the cancer vaccine :rolleyes:

Quote (Meanwhile @ Aug 12 2023 04:57pm)

Jared Kushner gets $2B Saudi investment: Annual management fee : 25 millions ... :lol: Trumps family crossed the line EASY.

Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Aug 2023 00:36)

Normal private equity firms take a 2.00%, Kushner's A Fin Management LLC (Affinity) took 1.25%, Mnuchin's Liberty Strategic Capital took 1.00%, but still taking the normal 20% carried interest on profits. The Saudis put in place an oversight board requiring an investment committee before the vast majority of funds could be tapped, and Affinity had at least 20 employees at the time and more now, a group of well established investment professionals. The management cut and their carried interest is shared by all of them.

The Israelis and KSA wanted to deepen their economic ties, so they put billions into funds to invest in joint Israeli-Saudi companies and get returns on those investments, and put investment professionals in charge of the fund. All of which serves an obvious and legitimate national interest of the United States, and was personally negotiated by Jared Kushner as part of a deal formalizing relations between Israel and the KSA. The fund was all put together in broad daylight, with public scrutiny and accountability and oversight. Not to mention the part where everyone is actually qualified and experienced for their job.

Joe Biden's crackhead son arranged mafia-esque wink and nod meetings between oligarchs known for their bribery and his dad, then got directly paid millions in secret funds for a no-show job in a country he's never visited, distributed through a shell game of fake LLCs and in return Joe Biden warped US foreign policy as a quid pro quo for those oligarchs. And he dragged us into a war that got millions killed or displaced in the process. If Joe Biden personally got $5 million from Zlochevsky, and at least 100,000 Ukrainians have been killed, than that's about fiddy bucks for every dead khokhol. We coulda just paid for scalps and at least the cities would still be standing