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never forget, the same government that lets TRILLIONS disappear is prosecuting you over pennies

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I cannot agree more. This is the essence of what we are going through.
Some might not agree with me obviously.
The biggest problem we are facing now is not the rise of other nations taking over one another or I will go further i.e the Russians and the Ukraine Kerfuffle.

These are the problems IMO that are really wrecking our world sooner than later.

1. AI / Hyper AI
2. Climate Change
3. Food Security
4. Far Left and Far Right ideologues
5. The inability to live and let live for people of different religion , race , creed and political leanings. The inability to agree to disagree.

In regards to AI and Hyper AI. The United States and China are the leading proponents right now. They are going to screw us over sooner or later.
The trade wars , the perceived threats , the refusal to back down , negotiate from both sides are pushing them to quickly advance the AI technology.
Because at the end of the day which ever country that wins the AI war will have control or have a large stake in leading the World Order.

It will no doubt be ruinous for the world.


just because there is some AI out there writing texts for people does not mean the AIpocalypse is happening

we are still the master race and no valuable skill will be replaced in a realistic timeframe
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Aug 11 2023 06:44am
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just because there is some AI out there writing texts for people does not mean the AIpocalypse is happening

we are still the master race and no valuable skill will be replaced in a realistic timeframe


I wish and hope that was true. But here is my pov. Between 1800s to 2000s , technology advancement is at least a 100 times faster since the collaspe of the Roman empire. If we are to compare technology since 2000 up till now to what happened for the last 200 years. Within a mere 20 years technology is at least a 100 times faster.

I don't think anyone would have dreamt during the time when the first mobile phone is produced...1G... that within such a short period of time everything is now in the palm of our hands.

We as humans always believe we are above everything else and between ourselves different race and religion believes that we are superior than the other.

But nature and now Technology have a wicked way of toying with us.

I do hope that AI won't take over that soon. But with China and USA trying to overtake one another, the ingenuity and Innovation of our human brain might just create a new Frankenstein that we cannot control.

Today we have AI writing. In 20 years time we will have AI Japanese cat girls.
The world and technology is moving way too fast.
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Aug 11 2023 07:13am
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I wish and hope that was true. But here is my pov. Between 1800s to 2000s , technology advancement is at least a 100 times faster since the collaspe of the Roman empire. If we are to compare technology since 2000 up till now to what happened for the last 200 years. Within a mere 20 years technology is at least a 100 times faster.

I don't think anyone would have dreamt during the time when the first mobile phone is produced...1G... that within such a short period of time everything is now in the palm of our hands.

We as humans always believe we are above everything else and between ourselves different race and religion believes that we are superior than the other.

But nature and now Technology have a wicked way of toying with us.

I do hope that AI won't take over that soon. But with China and USA trying to overtake one another, the ingenuity and Innovation of our human brain might just create a new Frankenstein that we cannot control.

Today we have AI writing. In 20 years time we will have AI Japanese cat girls.
The world and technology is moving way too fast.


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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Aug 11 2023 07:44am)
I wish and hope that was true. But here is my pov. Between 1800s to 2000s , technology advancement is at least a 100 times faster since the collaspe of the Roman empire. If we are to compare technology since 2000 up till now to what happened for the last 200 years. Within a mere 20 years technology is at least a 100 times faster.

I don't think anyone would have dreamt during the time when the first mobile phone is produced...1G... that within such a short period of time everything is now in the palm of our hands.

We as humans always believe we are above everything else and between ourselves different race and religion believes that we are superior than the other.

But nature and now Technology have a wicked way of toying with us.

I do hope that AI won't take over that soon. But with China and USA trying to overtake one another, the ingenuity and Innovation of our human brain might just create a new Frankenstein that we cannot control.

Today we have AI writing. In 20 years time we will have AI Japanese cat girls.
The world and technology is moving way too fast.



Think you have a bias here that modern man is at the pinnacle of intuition and technology. Human are slow to develop actual jumps in technology and terribly inefficient at implementation. Couple examples.. Photography is mentioned as a great invention in recent centuries, but it's based on ancient concept of light in a box which many ancient civs had, thousands.of years in the making to get a light trapped on medium from those ancient boxes. Second, tech requires vast resources to manufacture. Those Lithium battery chemistries are great example, is there even enough to implement a green high tech society (No).

So, the point is tech and AI are not asBoogeyman as many think. It's bound by corpus that AI trained on and physically limited by hard implementation constraints like metals, IC fab, electricity, etc.

I think the biggest challenge facing modern society is the evolution of our cities and dense urban centers as the paradigm of industrial factory cities began breaking decades ago in the US. These cities are where many of the top problems on your original list manifest. Disproportionately so

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Aug 12 2023 01:17am
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Think you have a bias here that modern man is at the pinnacle of intuition and technology. Human are slow to develop actual jumps in technology and terribly inefficient at implementation. Couple examples.. Photography is mentioned as a great invention in recent centuries, but it's based on ancient concept of light in a box which many ancient civs had, thousands.of years in the making to get a light trapped on medium from those ancient boxes. Second, tech requires vast resources to manufacture. Those Lithium battery chemistries are great example, is there even enough to implement a green high tech society (No).

So, the point is AI is not as Boogeyman as many think. It's bound by corpus that AI trained on and physically limited by hard implementation constraints like metals, IC fab, electricity, etc.

I think the biggest challenge facing modern society is the evolution of our cities and dense urban centers as the paradigm of industrial factory cities began breaking decades ago in the US. These cities are where many of the top problems on your original list manifest. Disproportionately so


I will reflect on this. You might be right that I have a bias in regards to modern man. Although let me give you a short view in regards to my thoughts on modern man.
I actually do not think that they are at their pinnacle yet. Which is what disturbs me how far we can go and what we can achieve.
More often than not, during tumultuous and unstable times, where the threat of conflicts, war and competition, technology seems to move way faster as there will be governments grants and help that gives us immeasurable resources that help us quicken our steps in creating new and advance technology.

My view on this stems on the fact that the Germans created the first Jet fighters in WW2 but at the end of course.
The mere 20 to 30 years after WW2, the competition and space race between the Soviets and the USA put so much attention on both sides that the Soviets sent the first satellite into space and the United States sent the first crew onto the moon.

The Technology that send the first moon mission is vastly inferior as compared to what we have now, semi conductors , computer chips etc etc .

This is where my thoughts derive from. But I appreciate your commentary on this will help me reflect.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 12 2023 01:29am
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I will reflect on this. You might be right that I have a bias in regards to modern man. Although let me give you a short view in regards to my thoughts on modern man.
I actually do not think that they are at their pinnacle yet. Which is what disturbs me how far we can go and what we can achieve.
More often than not, during tumultuous and unstable times, where the threat of conflicts, war and competition, technology seems to move way faster as there will be governments grants and help that gives us immeasurable resources that help us quicken our steps in creating new and advance technology.

My view on this stems on the fact that the Germans created the first Jet fighters in WW2 but at the end of course.
The mere 20 to 30 years after WW2, the competition and space race between the Soviets and the USA put so much attention on both sides that the Soviets sent the first satellite into space and the United States sent the first crew onto the moon.

The Technology that send the first moon mission is vastly inferior as compared to what we have now, semi conductors , computer chips etc etc .

This is where my thoughts derive from. But I appreciate your commentary on this will help me reflect.


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Aug 12 2023 01:59am
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The Technology that send the first moon mission is vastly inferior as compared to what we have now, semi conductors , computer chips etc etc .

This is where my thoughts derive from. But I appreciate your commentary on this will help me reflect.


Much of that tech is based on the same comp sci and EE paradigm though. Going from vacuum tube to mosfet was an implementation improvement. 55nm to 15nm fab lab refinements.

The last rapid developments in tech where from physics and the quantum study fields, but that theoretical quantum physics front has not produced much substantial value to humans in many decades now. Unless that explains all the UFO stuff
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Quote (RedFromWinter @ 12 Aug 2023 15:59)
Much of that tech is based on the same comp sci and EE paradigm though. Going from vacuum tube to mosfet was an implementation improvement. 55nm to 15nm fab lab refinements.

The last rapid developments in tech where from physics and the quantum study fields, but that theoretical quantum physics front has not produced much substantial value to humans in many decades now. Unless that explains all the UFO stuff


Will reflect since I am not familiar with the field. I am just giving out my thoughts from what has developed since the industrial revolution.
I am taking a more social , political and applied history approach to it. Which at times might not be a good approach to how understand tech and physics evolve.
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