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Jul 9 2023 02:32pm
please try to find something interesting next time
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Jul 9 2023 03:19pm
Expectant mother, woman is a general term for all females.
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Jul 9 2023 04:53pm
also im doing a double take for you duffman, what the fuck even is the framing of this poll? how do we refer to a soon to be mother, or a potential mother expecting another child? where do the "lol what is a woman" crowd people think this stuff up? its just culture war bait creating problems that dont exist

i know you are one to take on a few bad takes, but surely you dont buy this?
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Jul 9 2023 05:27pm
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Jul 9 2023 05:55pm
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also im doing a double take for you duffman, what the fuck even is the framing of this poll? how do we refer to a soon to be mother, or a potential mother expecting another child? where do the "lol what is a woman" crowd people think this stuff up? its just culture war bait creating problems that dont exist

i know you are one to take on a few bad takes, but surely you dont buy this?


These "culture war" hot button issues always stem from a crackpot left-wing activist group seeking obligatory changes to the English language.

People find it both ridiculous and offensive. When these activist groups stop, people will stop caring. If a woman wants to refer to herself as a "birthing person", she's welcome to do it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/

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Last year, a brand-new labor-and-delivery hospital opened on the well-to-do Upper East Side of New York City. Its name, the Alexandra Cohen Hospital for Women and Newborns, might strike most people as innocuous or straightforward. But to some people, the suggestion that a hospital where babies are born is for women is offensive, because transgender and nonbinary people who do not identify as women can also get pregnant and deliver babies.


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Jul 9 2023 06:13pm
Quote (blahaj @ Jul 9 2023 06:53pm)
also im doing a double take for you duffman, what the fuck even is the framing of this poll? how do we refer to a soon to be mother, or a potential mother expecting another child? where do the "lol what is a woman" crowd people think this stuff up? its just culture war bait creating problems that dont exist

i know you are one to take on a few bad takes, but surely you dont buy this?


I don't think its as serious as its made out to be on social media but I did happen to notice that the hospital I go to has renamed the mom and baby clinic to the family and baby clinic 🤔
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Jul 9 2023 06:16pm
It's a real discourse that happens, but it is overwhelmingly online. Tends to be true of nearly all trans-related discourse, reflected here in PaRD, where we have a number of posters preoccupied with all things trans despite it not intersecting with their real lives in a meaningful way.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jul 9 2023 06:19pm
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Jul 9 2023 06:24pm
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It's a real discourse that happens, but it is overwhelmingly online. Tends to be true of nearly all trans-related discourse, reflected here in PaRD, where we have a number of posters preoccupied with all things trans despite it not intersecting with their real lives in a meaningful way.


Well I don't think we have any females left on pard so yea it doesn't impact any of us.
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Jul 9 2023 09:18pm
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It's a real discourse that happens, but it is overwhelmingly online. Tends to be true of nearly all trans-related discourse, reflected here in PaRD, where we have a number of posters preoccupied with all things trans despite it not intersecting with their real lives in a meaningful way.


Language is the primary frame through which we interpret the world around us. Changes to language are therefore important, and the activists recognize this explicitly. Doubly so when those changes are being made consciously, and multiples of that if it's an obligation on others to shape their language as well. This is an insignificant issue in a vacuum, but it's also one very small part of a much wider push, most of which has nothing to do with transgenderism.
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Jul 9 2023 09:19pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 9 2023 08:18pm)
Language is the primary frame through which we interpret the world around us. Changes to language are therefore important, and the activists recognize this explicitly. Doubly so when those changes are being made consciously, and multiples of that if it's an obligation on others to shape their language as well. This is an insignificant issue in a vacuum, but it's also one very small part of a much wider push, most of which has nothing to do with transgenderism.


I don't mean to suggest that it is a benign topic, but rather the preoccupation that some people have on all things trans-related is a bit bizarre to me.
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