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Jun 11 2023 12:05am
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If non-human UAPs exist, which necessitates the existence of highly intelligent/technological non-human life


Why does it necessitate that? It's possible that there's shit out there that occurs naturally that we just can't explain with our current level of science.
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Why does it necessitate that? It's possible that there's shit out there that occurs naturally that we just can't explain with our current level of science.


That's a fair point if a UAP lacks signs of construction.
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That's a fair point if a UAP lacks signs of construction.


If it were a UAP from a truly advanced space-faring species would we be able to recognize it as constructed? Thinking back to the fly-by of Oumuamua, probably just a fast-moving space rock but maybe? How would we be able to tell the difference?
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If it were a UAP from a truly advanced space-faring species would we be able to recognize it as constructed? Thinking back to the fly-by of Oumuamua, probably just a fast-moving space rock but maybe? How would we be able to tell the difference?


Not sure, but it is hard for me to conceptualize coming across a UAP (that is the result of advanced space-faring species) that wouldn't have signs of construction.

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Not sure, but it is hard for me to conceptualize coming across a UAP (that is the result of advanced space-faring species) that wouldn't have signs of construction.


Which is what I'm saying, a truly space-faring species could or would have things we can't even conceptualize
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Earth has its very own Gungan population under the sea and we are just now meeting them.
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Which is what I'm saying, a truly space-faring species could or would have things we can't even conceptualize


Right, I get that, but it seems like something that is outside of our conceptualization could still have signs of construction. Would an indigenous person who has never seen a car, should they stumble upon one, think that it is organic in nature? Possibly, but I wonder.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 11 2023 11:22am)
Right, I get that, but it seems like something that is outside of our conceptualization could still have signs of construction. Would an indigenous person who has never seen a car, should they stumble upon one, think that it is organic in nature? Possibly, but I wonder.


very different example as you are describing humans who have the intellect but not the knowledge of modern cars and machinery, they could be capable learning. a significantly intelligent enough species would be completely incomprehensible for humans, like an ant vs human.

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very different example as you are describing humans who have the intellect but not the knowledge of modern cars and machinery, they could be capable learning. a significantly intelligent enough species would be completely incomprehensible for humans, like an ant vs human.


Incomprehensible but still in a way that we would assume it is purely organic?
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 11 2023 11:41am)
Incomprehensible but still in a way that we would assume it is purely organic?


possibly, i dont know and in this example we are not capable of knowing
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