The ballots weren't illegal Paxton just says random shit to appease the hogs and justify attempting to subvert democracy

in Paxtons mind the fact that the ballots are mail in is what makes them illegal because he thinks they can be defrauded easily. But he didnt attempt to sue any Republican controlled counties to stop the exact same ballots from being mailed to them

Maybe you should look into things instead of just reading a headline. Its a wierd fucking flex to brag about how you dont look into things before making conclusions.

ive always wondered why voting is not mandatory. democracy only "functions" if citizens participate in the vote. (with the idea that a mandatory vote may yield a result that better represents what the people actually want)
im not saying you should be forced to pick one candidate or another. but if you choose to null your vote, you still have to go in in-person and null your vote like anyone else is actually voting.
i bet alot less people would throw their votes away. it bugs me that voter turnout is always quite low. both USA and Canada.

if you wish to be part of country XYZ, and collect wtv benefits the government can offer you, well you need to do your part as a citizen and participate in voting.
bit something like jury duty i guess. i often tell people that if they didnt vote, they dont have the right to complain.

sry op, i dont mean to derail the thread.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Jun 1 2023 11:01am

just structure it like early seat belt tickets, 10$ if you dont vote.

Instead of requiring it since that'll get the "muh freedumbz" crowd riled up, just pay everybody $50 to vote after massively expanding the polling stations. It's only 0.1% of the budget but would be a pretty good use of that money.

im all for incremental change, so if all i got was national holiday, then some expansion of polling stations, i'd be happy to see how it plays out. required vote is more of a moral opinion for me, i dont go as far as it being required for democracy like some do who agree.

and in the past Athene rose to fame by (pre video games) leading a movement that protested required voting, and i respected that. its a matter of perspective, if you've always been required to vote it makes sense to be against that requirement. if you live in a country that has a pitiful level of voters then it makes sense to want to required to try and increase the counts, even if people write in Mickey Mouse.

imagine though

You are forced to vote? Like gun pointed to your head and people getting murdered in the streets for refusing to vote?

They make it a law that counties MUST provide water and toilets and by law ensure lines arent more than a half hour long?

If you are in a poor area then Uber and public transportation must by law drive everyone to the polling stations for free?

How bad could it be

This post was edited by Crunkt on Jun 1 2023 11:15am

I am generally against punitive measures when you can just use a positive measure instead. Punitive measures require an apparatus to dole the punishment and will always impact those with lesser means more.

I like the paying civilians to vote thats a great idea. In Ontario they have all these credits they give out every quarter and thats like a 250 cheque just take 50 of that and pay me to vote

actually a really good idea

like i said, it would be 3rd phase of my plan, and id structure it like early seat belt tickets. 10$ if you dont vote.

10$ every 4 years for a poor non voter isn't a back breaking punitive measure, and it comes with a free photo ID in my plan.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 1 2023 11:21am

I take it back, you really ARE a left wing supporter.