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May 22 2023 02:40am
Is the blob alive or not?
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May 22 2023 02:55am
Exodus 21:22-25
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22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely or she has a miscarriage but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

The bible does not see a fetus as a human life.


Numbers 5:27.

If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

The bible giving specific advice on when and how to abort.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 22 2023 02:58am
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May 22 2023 03:00am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2023 01:55am)
Exodus 21:22-25
New International Version
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely or she has a miscarriage but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

The bible does not see a fetus as a human life.


Numbers 5:27.

If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

The bible giving specific advice on when to abort.


dunno if that second one is 100% advice on when to abort tbh

maybe it's just confusing language
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May 22 2023 03:53am
Quote (majorblood @ May 22 2023 05:00am)
dunno if that second one is 100% advice on when to abort tbh

maybe it's just confusing language


Interpretation is the spicy part of religion
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May 22 2023 05:21am
Quote (El1te @ 22 May 2023 08:19)
The idea that life begins at conception does not come from Christianity, it comes from science. A new life is formed when single strands of DNA from the mother and father connect to form a double helix, which relays further sets of instructions to create the first cell and then the cells multiply.
The idea that life is sacred comes from all fundamental religions & philosophies in the world, and is ground in, frankly, common sense.


Life begins billions years ago in the ocean, hairs and nails continue to grow after death... "life" is an easy world. But for the few i know the BIBLE NEVER DEFINES Cells, Atoms...
The only "life starts" related description we have in the the Bible is related to GENESIS old testament part. Which is utter clownery regarding science.

"Life is sacred" is not the same as "Cell is sacred", in the same way: "Life" is also the life we live as individuals every day and the typical american republican conservatives, forcing inequalitarian, discriminatory, freedom destructive, policies and not respecting this "life" at all.
Above this: i don't think there's anything about "sacred life" in the bible. Especially cells.

Conclusion: imho your claims are only blabla (to stay polite) and the Bible is not science.

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Life begins billions years ago in the ocean, hairs and nails continue to grow after death... "life" is an easy world. But for the few i know the BIBLE NEVER DEFINES Cells, Atoms...
The only "life starts" related description we have in the the Bible is related to GENESIS old testament part. Which is utter clownery regarding science.

"Life is sacred" is not the same as "Cell is sacred", in the same way: "Life" is also the life we live as individuals every day and the typical american republican conservatives, forcing inequalitarian, discriminatory, freedom destructive, policies and not respecting this "life" at all.
Above this: i don't think there's anything about "sacred life" in the bible. Especially cells.

Conclusion: imho your claims are only blabla (to stay polite) and the Bible is not science.


your not science either
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May 22 2023 05:57am
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 22 2023 04:21am)
Life begins billions years ago in the ocean, hairs and nails continue to grow after death... "life" is an easy world. But for the few i know the BIBLE NEVER DEFINES Cells, Atoms...
The only "life starts" related description we have in the the Bible is related to GENESIS old testament part. Which is utter clownery regarding science.

"Life is sacred" is not the same as "Cell is sacred", in the same way: "Life" is also the life we live as individuals every day and the typical american republican conservatives, forcing inequalitarian, discriminatory, freedom destructive, policies and not respecting this "life" at all.
Above this: i don't think there's anything about "sacred life" in the bible. Especially cells.

Conclusion: imho your claims are only blabla (to stay polite) and the Bible is not science.


he said literally nothing about the bible wtf is this rant
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May 22 2023 05:58am
Quote (TiStuff @ 22 May 2023 13:40)
your not science either


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May 22 2023 06:02am
Quote (majorblood @ 22 May 2023 13:57)
he said literally nothing about the bible wtf is this rant


Just redirecting toward the title "in christianity"
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 12:55am)
Read what he said again



Quote (majorblood @ May 22 2023 12:35am)
theres definitely a fusion of gametes which are carrying chromosomes from your mother and father and that new cell (zygote) definitely multiples via mitosis


This is correct and is a more precise and detailed explanation for the same thing that I said.

Fun fact: Go get your DNA tested, you will find that 50% is from your mother and 50% is from your father :)

Quote (Meanwhile @ May 22 2023 04:21am)
Life begins billions years ago in the ocean, hairs and nails continue to grow after death... "life" is an easy world. But for the few i know the BIBLE NEVER DEFINES Cells, Atoms...
The only "life starts" related description we have in the the Bible is related to GENESIS old testament part. Which is utter clownery regarding science.

"Life is sacred" is not the same as "Cell is sacred", in the same way: "Life" is also the life we live as individuals every day and the typical american republican conservatives, forcing inequalitarian, discriminatory, freedom destructive, policies and not respecting this "life" at all.
Above this: i don't think there's anything about "sacred life" in the bible. Especially cells.

Conclusion: imho your claims are only blabla (to stay polite) and the Bible is not science.


The idea that human life is sacred is secular, in fact, Western secular society has done a FAR better job at protecting the sanctity of life versus past highly Christian or other religious societies - the death penalty is completely abolished in most secular Western states.

Why are you bringing up the Bible here?

The scientific fact is as follows: human life is created when sperm from the father fertilizes an oocyte (where the physical process of DNA joining occurs) which then forms the zygote (which is a new unique human cell line with its own unique DNA). To be absolutely precise, a new human life is created when the zygote is formed.
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