Yes, the CDU (Christian Democrats, mainstream conservatives with strong cuck tendencies during the Merkel era) are the most pro American party in Germany, closely followed by the Greens. The Social Democrats are traditionally more sceptical of America and suffer from some sort of throwback Russophilia which is rooted in historical factors. The libertarian/classically liberal "Free Democrats" are pro America, but have a strong focus on economic policy and don't care that much about foreign policy these days. The far-left "Leftist Party" and the right-wing-populist "Alternative for Germany" have strong anti-American factions among their ranks.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 26 2023 11:26pm

Got it , thanks for the info.

To be even more specific, "left vs right" almost exclusively referred to two-party systems of government to begin with. Its etymological roots are with people literally sitting on the left/right sides of the aisle during the 1789 french revolution, with royalists and revolutionaries congregating on opposite sides of the french assembly, and has been applies to two-party systems since then. In multi-party systems, either they form left/right coalitions which is often the case, or the label doesn't really make sense.

I mean do you blame the muslims?
The right hates them despite having numerable things in common with them.



Comparing a conservative from 1947 to a liberal in 2023 is where you went wrong, Thats like "look at this rock and this basketball 60 years apart, what went wrong?"

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Apr 27 2023 04:37am

It should be noted that the Social Democrats have their roots in communism sympathy & pro-Stalinist (namely state control & central planning) ideology

Jesus, what a mess

the only difference between right leaning and left leaning is which side of the tower of pisa you're standing on.

Yes, being a leftist party, the Social Democrats obviously had greater sympathies for communism and thus the Soviet Union than the Christian Democrats. Morever, their first chancellor Willy Brandt conducted a major pivot in our foreign policy, away from the staunch pro-America and anti-communism stance of the Adenauer era ("Hallstein Doctrine") and toward more friendly relations with the East ("change through trade/rapprochement"). This détente policy led to a thawing period in relations between West Germany and East Germany, as well as the entire Eastern bloc, during the late 60s and throughout he 70s. This "New Eastern Policy" is considered to this day by Social Democrats as having been highly successful and having paved the way toward the peaceful reunification of Germany.

One last relevant bit of historical info before I bore you guys to death: it was during this period (specifically 1972) when the first gas pipelines from Russia to West Germany were brought into service. This historical background is also the reason why it caused huge woes for the German Social Democrats to adapt to the reality of the ultimate failure of the "change through trade" approach, which became undeniable in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 27 2023 12:03pm