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Apr 4 2023 07:19am
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Maybe orange men just commit disproportionate amounts of crime


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You got him this time guys!
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Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Apr 2023 07:45)
Maybe orange men just commit disproportionate amounts of crime


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Apr 4 2023 09:18am
Indicated on 34 counts
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Apr 4 2023 11:43pm
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Donald Trump was arraigned Tuesday on 34 felony charges of falsifying business records to cover up a $130,000 hush money payment to an adult-film star — a case that many legal experts had, before the indictment was unsealed, brushed off as unsubstantial.

But lawyer Norm Eisen, who spoke to Yahoo News on Monday, made the argument that the charges follow a pattern and that they should not be discounted.

“I think in some ways it is as serious a democracy crime as in Georgia, as in the federal investigations of Jan. 6 and the Mar-a-Lago classified documents,” Eisen said, referring to several of the other ongoing investigations into Trump.

“That’s because the one election that might actually have been altered by Trump’s allegedly illegal interference was the 2016 contest.”

The 2016 election between Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton, in which Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes but lost the Electoral College tally by a margin of 304-227, was in part decided in three states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump’s margin of victory across those three swing states was fewer than 80,000 votes.

Eisen believes that, had it broken during the campaign, the revelation that Trump had paid Stormy Daniels to stay quiet could have altered the outcome.

“In the wake of ‘Access Hollywood,’ this scandal, had [the Stormy Daniels news] broken, could have swung the election to Trump’s opponent,” Eisen said. “The alleged falsification of financial records to cover up a campaign finance violation in New York might constitute the one case where the outcome of the election was actually altered. So I think it’s a very serious matter.”

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why it matters:



Donald Trump was arraigned Tuesday on 34 felony charges of falsifying business records to cover up a $130,000 hush money payment to an adult-film star — a case that many legal experts had, before the indictment was unsealed, brushed off as unsubstantial.

But lawyer Norm Eisen, who spoke to Yahoo News on Monday, made the argument that the charges follow a pattern and that they should not be discounted.

“I think in some ways it is as serious a democracy crime as in Georgia, as in the federal investigations of Jan. 6 and the Mar-a-Lago classified documents,” Eisen said, referring to several of the other ongoing investigations into Trump.

“That’s because the one election that might actually have been altered by Trump’s allegedly illegal interference was the 2016 contest.”

The 2016 election between Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton, in which Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes but lost the Electoral College tally by a margin of 304-227, was in part decided in three states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump’s margin of victory across those three swing states was fewer than 80,000 votes.

Eisen believes that, had it broken during the campaign, the revelation that Trump had paid Stormy Daniels to stay quiet could have altered the outcome.

“In the wake of ‘Access Hollywood,’ this scandal, had [the Stormy Daniels news] broken, could have swung the election to Trump’s opponent,” Eisen said. “The alleged falsification of financial records to cover up a campaign finance violation in New York might constitute the one case where the outcome of the election was actually altered. So I think it’s a very serious matter.”


everyone knew about it, nobody cared. bill clinton set the precedent sleeping with tramps isnt a deal breaker
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Apr 5 2023 09:50am
"The only crime I have committed is to bravely defend the nation against those who try to destroy it."
=> Then january 06 was positive ?

Lastest article i read (french news) was saying this:
The trial of the former president could open at the beginning of next year, a first. But in the opinion of some experts, the prosecution case put together by the New York justice system has some weaknesses.
=> Suspecting this is not the first indictement

IMHO we can also add this:

- has falsified or caused to be falsified accounting documents
- pressured political authorities to "find him votes" in order to change the results of the polls
- refused the results of the polls, which had been validated by representatives of his party
- pushed his supporters to violent acts to reverse the result of these elections

The guy really want to "defend" his nation ... right ?
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