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Mar 23 2023 01:33pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 23 2023 08:29pm)
He can still be a loser without starting a war


still mad he was president?

its in the past, deal with it
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Kudos to the ICC for nominating a white guy finally! Putin is breaking down barriers!
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Mar 23 2023 01:34pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 23 2023 12:33pm)
still mad he was president?

its in the past, deal with it


I have, my only issue is he still the leading candidate for the R party in 24'
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Mar 23 2023 01:38pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Mar 23 2023 08:30pm)
The UN Security Council, as outlined in Article 39 of the UN Charter, theoretically has the ability to rule on the legality of the war, but the US and the UK have veto power in the Security Council, so action is highly improbable even if the issue were to be raised.

So it was not illegal.


Yes it was illegal.

The UN did not back the war, it was an illegal invasion (@21:20 - 21:50).

You didn't even watch it, like most (all?) of the users that post here. SMH
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Mar 23 2023 01:39pm
Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 12:38)
Yes it was illegal.

The UN did not back the war, it was an illegal invasion (@21:20 - 21:50).

You didn't even watch it, like most (all?) of the users that post here. SMH


No need. It was never ruled illegal as the US would veto it ( just like Russia). The system is broken, and the invasion wasn't "illegal" in any binding way.


I found the logical fallacy that may be leading you to this conclusion: Not supporting the war =/= the war was illegal.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Mar 23 2023 01:41pm
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Quote (Cascadian @ Mar 23 2023 08:39pm)
No need. It was never ruled illegal (as the US would veto it) just like Russia. The system is broken, and the invasion wasn't "illegal" in any binding way.


You should watch at specified time stamp

It was an illegal war
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Mar 23 2023 01:42pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 23 Mar 2023 20:23)
trump is the only guy to not start new wars and brought troops back

surely you can find something though ^_^


i'm sorry to tell you, but you've been had. the whole "anti interventionist" / "bring our troops back home" rhetoric by trump was empty. he noticed it resonated well with his base, so he just repeated it constantly - in order to make gullible morons, who mistake campaign slogans for policy, believe he was anti war.
in reality, however:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-drones-idUSKCN1QN2PD

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/22/obama-drones-trump-killings-count/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/11/us/politics/trump-troop-withdrawals-war.html

also, he might not have managed to start a new war, but it surely wasn't for a lack of trying. his various escalation attempts with iran nearly sparked a conflict that would have dwarfed any previous wars the US fought in the middle east. of course that doesn't go on the record, because it luckily didn't happen. just saying - and to be fair, i don't believe he did it because he desperately wanted his own war. i assume his primary motive was to destroy obama's legacy. if that's better or maybe even worse, i guess depends on your personal opinion, just mentioning it so you don't get the impression i thought trump had any sort of real conviction on the matter, one way or the other...
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Mar 23 2023 01:43pm
Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 12:41)
You should watch at specified time stamp

It was an illegal war


I don't need to watch some cherry picked video from MSN targeted at 40 somethings. For something to be illegal it needs to be summarily ruled as such by the appropriate international agency under their remit and no such vote has ever occurred for the Invasion of Iraq in support of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) or Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) as the United States would veto it.

The system is broken.

This post was edited by Cascadian on Mar 23 2023 01:44pm
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Quote (Cascadian @ Mar 23 2023 08:43pm)
I don't need to watch some cherry picked video from MSN targeted at 40 somethings. For something to be illegal it needs to be summarily ruled as such by the appropriate international agency under their remit and no such vote has ever occurred for the Invasion of Iraq in support of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) or Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) as the United States would veto it.

The system is broken.


Don't post here then if you refuse to even check what the topic is about, lol

Cya clown

This post was edited by Djunior on Mar 23 2023 01:47pm
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Quote (Djunior @ 23 Mar 2023 12:47)
Don't post here then if you refuse to even check what the topic is about, lol

Cya clown


I'm glad I was able to help clarify that the invasion wasn't illegal.
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