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Dec 14 2022 10:40am
Various headlines:

:: :: US bans new Huawei equipment sales over ‘unacceptable risk’ to national security :: ::
:: :: Surrounded: How the U.S. Is Encircling China with Military Bases :: ::
:: :: US blocks sales of some AI chips to China as tech crackdown intensifies :: ::
:: :: China puts the world at more risk than ever before :: ::
:: :: China and the US are locked in a cold war. We must win it. Here's how we will :: ::
:: :: China has rejected understanding with US on Taiwan, Blinken says :: ::

So the "Main Stream Media" (MSM) is outlining that the US and China are in a Cold War (this means they are at war but not shooting each other). My Question is: Why. What are the reasons why the US has made China its enemy, and, critically, where do you think it will all end.

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This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 14 2022 10:42am
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Dec 14 2022 10:45am
Quote (ferdia @ Dec 14 2022 11:40am)
Various headlines:

:: :: US bans new Huawei equipment sales over ‘unacceptable risk’ to national security :: ::
:: :: Surrounded: How the U.S. Is Encircling China with Military Bases :: ::
:: :: US blocks sales of some AI chips to China as tech crackdown intensifies :: ::
:: :: China puts the world at more risk than ever before :: ::
:: :: China and the US are locked in a cold war. We must win it. Here's how we will :: ::
:: :: China has rejected understanding with US on Taiwan, Blinken says :: ::

So the media is outlining that the US and China are in a Cold War (this means they are at war but not shooting each other). My Question is: Why. What are the reasons why the US has made China its enemy, and, critically, where do you think it will all end.

Discuss.







For "two" reasons....

1. China claims they own the South China Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dash_line







2.

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Quote (Ghot @ Dec 14 2022 04:45pm)
For "two" reasons....

1. China claims they own the South China Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dash_line

2. https://i.imgur.com/0KqnPWn.mp4


I think anyone can claim anything, its when they enforce a claim that an issue arises. would you not agree? I dont see this as being the reason for the US to wage war. Pretty sure alot of countries claim alot of stuff but its only when they act on those claims that issues arise.
Also, Japan was doing pretty well there for a while, but they were an "ally", the fact that China is doing well (in terms of growth) does not seem to be a rationale in and of itself to wage war. if it was Germany or England that was growing, would the US wage war against them ? if the US contracted and all other countries grew, would the US be at war with the world?

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Dec 14 2022 11:01am
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I think anyone can claim anything, its when they enforce a claim that an issue arises. would you not agree? I dont see this as being the reason for the US to wage war. Pretty sure alot of countries claim alot of stuff but its only when they act on those claims that issues arise.
Also, Japan was doing pretty well there for a while, but they were an "ally", the fact that China is doing well (in terms of growth) does not seem to be a rationale in and of itself to wage war. if it was Germany or England that was growing, would the US wage war against them ? if the US contracted and all other countries grew, would the US be at war with the world?


Because USA cannot control China like they can on Japan. Furthermore China was the First line of defense against the Soviets during the cold war , although both are communist countries they are not on the best term.
Kissinger did a secret secret visit to Beijing and build relationship with the Chinese and got them on the USA side.
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Dec 14 2022 11:09am
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Because USA cannot control China like they can on Japan. Furthermore China was the First line of defense against the Soviets during the cold war , although both are communist countries they are not on the best term.
Kissinger did a secret secret visit to Beijing and build relationship with the Chinese and got them on the USA side.


the one word i took out of all that is the word : Control.
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Dec 14 2022 11:11am
Quote (ferdia @ 15 Dec 2022 01:09)
the one word i took out of all that is the word : Control.


Yup, when you lose control you go crazy.
It has got nothing to do with

1. South China Sea
2. Huawei
3. Chips and supply chain.
4. Political ideologue
5. Human rights and democracy.

Non of the above.

Control is the main issue.

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the one word i took out of all that is the word : Control.


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Dec 14 2022 11:26am
More like China made itself the enemi of the whole World. Police stations overseas, spying micro chips, pushing people f free world countries on the street using social media.

China is hostile. Huawei is hostile. etc.


"why the US has made China its enemy, and, critically, where do you think it will all end."

What the fuck is wrong with you ferdia ?
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Dec 14 2022 11:27am
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More like China made itself the enemi of the whole World. Police stations overseas, spying micro chips, pushing people f free world countries on the street using social media.

China is hostile. Huawei is hostile. etc.


"why the US has made China its enemy, and, critically, where do you think it will all end."

What the fuck is wrong with you ferdia ?


I am asking an honest question. is it wrong to ask ? make of this topic what you will.

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