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Dec 8 2022 09:20pm
As a nonbeliever since birth, if and when I hear of the experiences of a parent or of parents who have lost a child due to the actions of a harmful member of our species, I sometimes find myself hoping that there is a place like hell, a place of unimaginable torture that certain religions profess may exist. Within my little thoughts, there really is nothing on this planet which can equal the pain and the suffering that a perp has caused to the victim as well as to the victim's family and/or community. Yet, I cannot will myself to believe in there being a literal hell nor that there is justice postmortem. I can only hope that the parent(s) and/or community finds the help, the love, and much, much more which will carry them through their life's difficult journey without their child.

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Dec 8 2022 09:31pm
The murderer may suffer and regret in prison for a long time.
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Dec 8 2022 09:41pm
with out God there will never be justice. I suggest learning what scripture is saying, what it means. what the message is. approach it with an open heart. read a gospel. read john a few times.
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Dec 8 2022 09:46pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 8 Dec 2022 22:41)
with out God there will never be justice. I suggest learning what scripture is saying, what it means. what the message is. approach it with an open heart. read a gospel. read john a few times.


I am an inclusive nonbeliever. So, there is space in this universe for me and for you. Within my reach, I can only hope that the parent, relative(s), and community who lose a child will not have to carry the extraordinary weight of their loss throughout their lives. That they will, even if it takes a long time, find their way back to the priceless love that was reflected by the mother for their child within the news vid.
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Dec 8 2022 10:03pm
Quote (jalapenos @ Dec 8 2022 07:46pm)
I am an inclusive nonbeliever. So, there is space in this universe for me and for you. Within my reach, I can only hope that the parent, relative(s), and community who lose a child will not have to carry the extraordinary weight of their loss throughout their lives. That they will, even if it takes a long time, find their way back to the priceless love that was reflected by the mother for their child within the news vid.


please consider my words.
i am not sure about the universe
be we are finite.
tomorrow is not promised.
i spent my life irreligious chasing my own lusts.
if i found the truth in scripture i have to believe anyone can.
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Dec 9 2022 12:11am
Quote (TiStuff @ 9 Dec 2022 14:41)
with out God there will never be justice. I suggest learning what scripture is saying, what it means. what the message is. approach it with an open heart. read a gospel. read john a few times.


I am happy that these ideas make you feel better. Other than that thanks to the justice system that takes care of these people.
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Dec 9 2022 12:18am
Isn't the idea of Hell an infinite amount of suffering for a finite period of sin? An overreaction and not particularly just, no?
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Dec 9 2022 12:27am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Dec 8 2022 10:18pm)
Isn't the idea of Hell an infinite amount of suffering for a finite period of sin? An overreaction and not particularly just, no?


You are missing the point.

I am not a defender of Christianity, however people need to realize that religions want people to be good. They have to come up with certain fables and mythologies and sometimes downright falsehoods in order to "trick" people into being good. And throughout most of Europe's time, the idea of a hell really served that purpose well. People feared being burned and they certainly didn't want this for all eternity. So they kept their noses clean. It was genius if you think about it.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 9 2022 07:27am)
You are missing the point.

I am not a defender of Christianity, however people need to realize that religions want people to be good. They have to come up with certain fables and mythologies and sometimes downright falsehoods in order to "trick" people into being good. And throughout most of Europe's time, the idea of a hell really served that purpose well. People feared being burned and they certainly didn't want this for all eternity. So they kept their noses clean. It was genius if you think about it.


what if they were right?
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Dec 9 2022 10:04am
Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Dec 8 2022 10:11pm)
I am happy that these ideas make you feel better. Other than that thanks to the justice system that takes care of these people.


you have zero knowledge of scripture but are all cock sure its false. such a simple solution. pick up a bible read it and school me. certainly the atheist mind would find it easy. where are they?



Quote (Handcuffs @ Dec 8 2022 10:18pm)
Isn't the idea of Hell an infinite amount of suffering for a finite period of sin? An overreaction and not particularly just, no?


your will be done, which is separation. its been said hell is locked from the inside.

Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 8 2022 10:27pm)
You are missing the point.

I am not a defender of Christianity, however people need to realize that religions want people to be good. They have to come up with certain fables and mythologies and sometimes downright falsehoods in order to "trick" people into being good. And throughout most of Europe's time, the idea of a hell really served that purpose well. People feared being burned and they certainly didn't want this for all eternity. So they kept their noses clean. It was genius if you think about it.


if you have an argument against scripture i will hear it. but it must be done in proper fashion. version(translation) chapter and verse then scripture in question then the argument.
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