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Nov 16 2022 02:38am
As we all know, NATO is a defensive alliance. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. Today Ukraine launched a missile over its border and into Poland, killing two innocent people.
https://www.reuters.com/world/poland-blast-caused-by-missile-fired-by-ukrainian-forces-incoming-russian-2022-11-16/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/16/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-putin-g20-missile-strike-przewodow/

Despite being responsible for the attack, Zelensky immediately falsely blamed Russia. Therefore I believe its entirely justified that NATO invokes not just Article 4, but also Article 5 of the NATO charter and determines that Ukraine's act of warfare waged against a NATO member constitutes an attack upon all of us.

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The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .


An armed attack has taken place in Europe against a NATO member and thus we have a collective obligation to respond militarily. The security council must be convened and we should immediately take necessary measures to subjugate the hostile Ukrainian regime. I humbly propose that in light of the aggressive actions of the Ukrainian government, a prudent NATO response would be to overthrow their current government by supporting a coup d'etat and replacing them with more 'friendly' politicians we can micromanage. If that were to fail, we could pass legislation and issue executive mandates to send billions of dollars of American ordnance into Ukraine as a last resort, expending as much weaponry as is necessary to ensure Ukraine's destruction.
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Nov 16 2022 02:52am
President Biden when asked if the missile had been fired from Russia. After meeting with the Group of Seven and NATO leaders.

“There is preliminary information that contests that, It is unlikely in the lines of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia, but we’ll see.”
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Nov 16 2022 02:53am
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 16 2022 03:52am)
President Biden when asked if the missile had been fired from Russia. After meeting with the Group of Seven and NATO leaders.

“There is preliminary information that contests that, It is unlikely in the lines of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia, but we’ll see.”



Anyone with a brain knows it wasn’t Russia you dink
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Nov 16 2022 02:55am
Quote (peeezy @ Nov 16 2022 03:53am)
Anyone with a brain knows it wasn’t Russia you dink


since moderators never take pard reports seriously.. Please don't make personal attacks.
I was simply conveying information from the news. It was not my personal take.

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 16 2022 02:55am
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Nov 16 2022 02:58am
Like I said in the other thread, the funniest thing about this is that it prompted an immediate flurry of panicked announcements.

NATO met, the Pentagon held a news briefing, Poland declared statements, legacy bluecheck journos from the cointel-cept went nuts, etc.

But when the most consequential act of economic terrorism in world history happened off the coast of that Danish island a few months ago, the response was a resounding who cares lol fuck off

Everyone knows who bombed those pipelines.
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Nov 16 2022 03:00am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Nov 16 2022 03:58am)
Everyone knows who bombed those pipelines.


Ukraine, right after Zelenskyy called for sabotage.

Zelenskyy wants to force the west into a war against Russia.

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Sep 24, 2022
Zelenskyy calls for 'sabotage'

Sep 26, 2022
2022 Nord Stream gas pipeline

This post was edited by Mondain on Nov 16 2022 03:02am
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Nov 16 2022 03:01am
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Ukraine, right after Zelenskyy called for sabotage.

Zelenskyy wants to force the west into a war against Russia.

Ukrops or Polaks or Americans themselves, it doesn't matter. No matter who, the US okayed it.
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Nov 16 2022 03:04am
Quote (Mondain @ Nov 16 2022 03:55am)
since moderators never take pard reports seriously.. Please don't make personal attacks.
I was simply conveying information from the news. It was not my personal take.



Fair enough , I apologize
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Nov 16 2022 03:05am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Nov 16 2022 08:58am)
Like I said in the other thread, the funniest thing about this is that it prompted an immediate flurry of panicked announcements.

NATO met, the Pentagon held a news briefing, Poland declared statements, legacy bluecheck journos from the cointel-cept went nuts, etc.

But when the most consequential act of economic terrorism in world history happened off the coast of that Danish island a few months ago, the response was a resounding who cares lol fuck off

Everyone knows who bombed those pipelines.


British SAS dolphins, obviously.

Media will media. Putin doesn't want to attack a NATO country. His army just got mopped up in Ukraine. Attacking a NATO country now is signing his own death warrant.

Vlad don't want that.
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Nov 16 2022 03:10am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 16 2022 01:05am)
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You shouldn't bite down so hard, honestly. In a few years, Poland will be seriously debating taking over some of these formerly-Ukrainian areas for themselves. Think of your future self. Have a good savings rate, keep a good diet and get exercise, and don't post about how you respect the territorial boundaries of a bunch of fash Galicians who hold torch vigils in brown shirts a few kilometers from your border.
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