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Sep 21 2022 07:52pm
As an American who always seeks education, I know PUTIN IS THE OPPOSITION so let's not make any mistake that I am some sort of russia advocater for war.

The war with ukraine is really none of our business, they're not a NATO ally and thus we owe them nothing.
A lot of my fellow americans are downplaying Putin as if he's some sort of moron. He's the supreme leader of russia, a nation we've
had a cold war with for half a century. He's an ex-kgb spy, the james bond of russia, the meme of badassery prior to the ukraine invasion,
and he was respected by many as "He's dat mfker", a boss, a badass, the chief, the top dog, etc.

I personally am not gonna say he's a bitch/retard/idiot/fool/blablabla and think he's
some evil dictatorial warlord. He's a nation's supreme leader, in a heavily political time and during war-time.
We are bound to be eating up propaganda like we always do. We know it exists, we know it's out there, and
we can see in history propaganda is spewed out on both sides.


Both sides will want to make the other side seem weak, feeble and non-threatening.

As kreese says in cobra kai, there is no good nor evil, just winners and losers.

For me? I remain in the middle and will laugh at both sides in 50 years when we find out the leaders of both sides fought for profit, killed their own people,
commited tons of warcrimes on their own people and blamed the other side for it like what happens in every case of declassified files. History repeats itself.
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Sep 21 2022 08:41pm
Quote (fishbro @ 21 Sep 2022 18:52)
As an American who always seeks education


Coulda fooled me after reading your post.
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Sep 21 2022 09:11pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Sep 21 2022 07:41pm)
Coulda fooled me after reading your post.



is this more of your persecution fetish playing out real time Quest-Ce Que Dian?

or just all those L's playing out real time.
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Sep 21 2022 09:35pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Sep 21 2022 09:41pm)
Coulda fooled me after reading your post.


why the disrespect? You lose in every debate you make on this forum yet you feel the need to insult others you've never even interacted with.
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Sep 21 2022 09:43pm
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why the disrespect? You lose in every debate you make on this forum yet you feel the need to insult others you've never even interacted with.



because he goes to mcdonalds and asks for the mc-haterade.

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Sep 22 2022 08:48am
Quote (fishbro @ 22 Sep 2022 03:52)
As an American who always seeks education, I know PUTIN IS THE OPPOSITION so let's not make any mistake that I am some sort of russia advocater for war.

The war with ukraine is really none of our business, they're not a NATO ally and thus we owe them nothing.
A lot of my fellow americans are downplaying Putin as if he's some sort of moron. He's the supreme leader of russia, a nation we've
had a cold war with for half a century. He's an ex-kgb spy, the james bond of russia, the meme of badassery prior to the ukraine invasion,
and he was respected by many as "He's dat mfker", a boss, a badass, the chief, the top dog, etc.

I personally am not gonna say he's a bitch/retard/idiot/fool/blablabla and think he's
some evil dictatorial warlord. He's a nation's supreme leader, in a heavily political time and during war-time.
We are bound to be eating up propaganda like we always do. We know it exists, we know it's out there, and
we can see in history propaganda is spewed out on both sides.


Both sides will want to make the other side seem weak, feeble and non-threatening.

As kreese says in cobra kai, there is no good nor evil, just winners and losers.

For me? I remain in the middle and will laugh at both sides in 50 years when we find out the leaders of both sides fought for profit, killed their own people,
commited tons of warcrimes on their own people and blamed the other side for it like what happens in every case of declassified files. History repeats itself.
Be weary of old men in a game where young men die.


textbook false equivalence. guess WWII was also a "both sides are bad" thing by that "logic"? after all, the allies used propaganda and committed war crimes too, so you "remain in the middle and laugh at both sides", huh? people who genuinely believe that's a smart take are so cringe...
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Sep 23 2022 01:45am
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textbook false equivalence. guess WWII was also a "both sides are bad" thing by that "logic"? after all, the allies used propaganda and committed war crimes too, so you "remain in the middle and laugh at both sides", huh? people who genuinely believe that's a smart take are so cringe...


both sides? There was more than just allies and axis.

Russia and USA fucked up nazi germany, everyone can agree Nazis = bad but not many call out churchill for his war-crimes, or fdr for the bad he's done, or anyone else for that matter.

The american government is probably one of the biggest perpetrators, and I'm american. Suicide Squad 2 showcases just how far the USG will go to take down any potential threats to their authority.
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Sep 23 2022 05:19am
Quote (fishbro @ Sep 23 2022 08:45am)
both sides? There was more than just allies and axis.

Russia and USA fucked up nazi germany, everyone can agree Nazis = bad but not many call out churchill for his war-crimes, or fdr for the bad he's done, or anyone else for that matter.

The american government is probably one of the biggest perpetrators, and I'm american. Suicide Squad 2 showcases just how far the USG will go to take down any potential threats to their authority.


Churchills war crimes? Do elaborate.
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Sep 23 2022 05:29am
Quote (fishbro @ Sep 23 2022 02:45am)
both sides? There was more than just allies and axis.

Russia and USA fucked up nazi germany, everyone can agree Nazis = bad but not many call out churchill for his war-crimes, or fdr for the bad he's done, or anyone else for that matter.

The american government is probably one of the biggest perpetrators, and I'm american. Suicide Squad 2 showcases just how far the USG will go to take down any potential threats to their authority.


Wat?

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Churchills war crimes? Do elaborate.


Carpet bombing, for starters.

This post was edited by Santara on Sep 23 2022 05:30am
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Sep 23 2022 05:56am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 12:29pm)
Wat?

Carpet bombing, for starters.


Horrific yes. Not a war crime.

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