I like the sound of this. If this works out (how long will it take?) would certainly be good although it probably won't prevent the inevitable rise of china

https://www.dailywire.com/news/desantis-ill-invest-in-microchip-semiconductor-manufacturing-so-chinese-cannot-hold-our-supply-chain-hostage

On Wednesday, Florida GOP governor Ron DeSantis announced he would invest the state’s funds to increase microchip and semiconductor manufacturing in Florida so that the Chinese Communist Party could not “hold our supply chain hostage.”

We need to incentivize companies to bring manufacturing back with high tarrifs and incentives. Carrot and stick. The supply chain disruptions has made it clear the costs of outsourcing will eventually come back to bite us in the ass. When we need these things the most, such as during emergencies, are the times when supply chains are the most fragile, and as such we can't just wait for an incredibly bad disaster to make us realize that.

China just replicated the surface of the sun and nobody like Ron DeSantis to step up and say. "I challenge you."

Ill believe it when I see it ron.

DeSantis is all talk and very little action. The people of Florida are too stupid to manufacture semiconductors so they'd have to import them from educated countries and/or states. That would instantly turn the state blue.



I don't think that's necessary. If you export labor to friendly countries, it's a win win for everyone involved. A substantial portion of our supply chain woes are domestic anyway.

if they're going to re double up on vaccines w/ 2 boosters going to need more chips.

In geopolitics, there are no "friends", just shared interests. You are right though: it's unnecessary to bring all manufacturing in key sectors back home - it would be enough if production and expertise was decentralized and spread around a sufficiently high number of different countries. It's only a problem when one country holds full control over key technologies or production.



The donor class on both sides of the aisle hates hates HATES tariffs. Not gonna happen.

In hindsight, it's kinda baffling how - back in 2016 - both Trump and Bernie were already arguing that outsourcing and the loss of manufacturing is a disaster and that tariffs are not as bad as the neoliberal propaganda of the preceding 30 years had been telling us.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 8 2022 11:55pm

I told you as much in different words lol

Bernie and Trump were both huge populists. Go back and look at Trump's 2016 stuff and it's basically just bernie-style economic populism with racism added in to appeal to the Republican base. It's why we had the "Bernie Bro" switch, and why Bernie would have almost definitely beat Trump in the general. Hillary did not turn out the same people that Trump did. Plenty of polling indicated that Bernie massively turned out the left, and ate into Trump's first-time-voters who were inspired to come out by the economic populism.

Then in 2020 Trump almost totally abandoned that message and became Fox News Grandpa talking about communism. And so that election became a tossup weighted against Republicans because of Demographics. When Trump showed himself to be just like the old ruling class with no real change... he basically doomed himself to the same odds as other Republicans.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 9 2022 12:35am

The boomers are water-fat on the fruit of their ancestors' labor. They couldn't give less of a shit about the real problems of our generation. Now that they are dying like flies we can get back to being a good civilization.



Ambitious. He would have to import some Taiwanese business tycoons to seal the deal though. Not sure how well it will play out.

Maybe start actually enforcing some anti-trust laws and get back to real public investment. The U.S. was a technological superpower because we invested an insane amount into R&D. The boomers made us stop, cut back the social policies that were unambiguously working, and gave the reigns of power to corporations. Time to take it back boys.

It was a tricky set of poisons that the boomers set in motion.

In order to win the cold-war, the boomers created the CIA and FBI in their current form. Those two organizations helped create a cabal of unstoppable elites and gave them the ability to operate uninhibited behind the scenes. Now we are feeling the effects of their fuckup.

If we want to make any change, not only are we going to have to trust-bust, we are going to have to reform the intelligence agencies that gave birth to them.. And most people that seek to reform the intelligence agencies die in mysterious ways, just ask Michael Flynn.